Weihrauch17 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/16/campaigners-win-right-challenge-england-food-strategy-climate-crisis Unbelievable this is being allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 All part of the master plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 This country is beginning to be a “do as I say” country. And it’s p***ing me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Certainly not heading in a good direction. Tiny movements everyday to push the sheeple into the abattoir lairage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 so does that mean we need to kill 1000,s of extra wild birds an animals to help with climate change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just one of who knows how many little pressure groups, starting to dictate policy, which they will continue to do so if we allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 They are not the full shilling. These are sick people trying to force their view of the future and what we eat, how we travel etc. on the public, without going via the ballot box. They have no regard for the law and it is high time the mainstream political parties told them to do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 The claim appears to be that DEFRA are ignoring the 2008 legislation. It doesn't seem to be unreasonable to ask the courts to determine if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted June 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Pushandpull said: The claim appears to be that DEFRA are ignoring the 2008 legislation. It doesn't seem to be unreasonable to ask the courts to determine if that is the case. So in 2008 the Govt legislated against Meat and Dairy? Rubbish and where is there any proof that killing Cattle will in any way effect the climate, it is absolute insanity of the highest order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 No good putting words in my mouth. I am not expressing an opinion. The call for a judicial review, and the reasons, are clearly set out and Keith Lindblom has given his opinion. which counts for a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Quote It doesn't seem to be unreasonable to ask the courts to determine if that is the case. You are expressing an opinion. You don't think it is unreasonable. I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 I am sure you are right. You may not understand the role of the courts but that does not stop you being right. You are right ! Happy now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Look forward to your insects and factory produced milk/meat type substances. I commented a couple of weeks ago about the move to register all poultry - once registered.... 200k cattle over three years - what will be the carbon footprint of that I wonder.... I have also heard mutterings about pets... and I am not on about Chickens.... Fido and Felix could be up for the chop in the near future because of their carbon footprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 it is almost impossible for us to comprehend how much beef alone is produced in the USA each year to supply the home market demand. What we produce (and consume) in this country is insignificant in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Vince Green said: What we produce (and consume) in this country is insignificant in comparison. As long as you ignore the fact that you are using up 75% more resourses per capita in this country then what is sustainable everything seems reasonable. /M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Maybe it's a clever strategy by the courts to ensure that 'Feedback' spend all of thier money on some silly notion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Quote You may not understand the role of the courts You are clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Back with a bit more fatuous rudeness then. Carry on if it makes you feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Its an interesting ruling and looks like our promises to deliver are being tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, oowee said: Its an interesting ruling and looks like our promises to deliver are being tested. The only promises being made are from our totally clueless woke virtue signalling politicians. There has been no rational debate with the Public on whether we want to impoverish ourselves for absolutely no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: The only promises being made are from our totally clueless woke virtue signalling politicians. There has been no rational debate with the Public on whether we want to impoverish ourselves for absolutely no good reason. The public never understood Brexit let alone the climate debate. Fortunately the debate is largely informed (woke) unlike a general public discourse on the subject. Either way they are our politicians put in power for the very purpose of making decisions on our behalf. Its inevitable that they will make decisions that will be beyond the immediate self interest of us as individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, oowee said: The public never understood Brexit let alone the climate debate. Fortunately the debate is largely informed (woke) unlike a general public discourse on the subject. Either way they are our politicians put in power for the very purpose of making decisions on our behalf. Its inevitable that they will make decisions that will be beyond the immediate self interest of us as individuals. Understatement of the decade. So what you are saying is the General Public are stupid and our wonderful Politicians know best, how patronising they are totally clueless. Edited June 18, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Understatement of the decade. So what you are saying is the General Pubic are stupid and our wonderful Politicians know best, how patronising they are totally clueless. I guess that's why they do what they do and you do what you do. As for the general public. Since when have they ever been able to make a decision beyond the here and now? We are as a species predisposed to greed and self satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, oowee said: I guess that's why they do what they do and you do what you do. As for the general public. Since when have they ever been able to make a decision beyond the here and now? We are as a species predisposed to greed and self satisfaction. Yep very patronising. If you are so Green maybe you need to stop flying round the world every year to kill things. Edited June 18, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Quote Back with a bit more fatuous rudeness then. Carry on if it makes you feel better. I think you have cornered that market. I object to taxpayers money being used to satisfy the woke / green / stop oil / save the planet numpties. These pressure groups have got politicians talking about net zero etc. It isn't achievable, but let's waste billions, rather than looking after the elderly, the poor, the homeless. Forget improving Policing, the NHS and more when we can spend the money on nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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