Raja Clavata Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 He is Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) Really ?take it back then . Where has that been said then ? Edited August 1 by B686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: He is Christian. Yeah very! ***! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: But tragically it just did happen. We as a nation need to own it. I agree it needs getting to the bottom of. Not at all, this 17 year has very deliberately gone to where these kids were enjoying their summer holidays having a Taylor Swift dance thing, it didn't just happen. If he had gone from his home and attacked people at random then it just happened, this was targeted, planned, and sick. We as a nation do not need to own it, mass shootings happen all the time in America, largely because of the access to guns. Stabbings have been happening far too often in our country for years now, and it's got far worse over the last 5-10 years, it's often Black kids Stabbing Black kids in inner city areas, yet any effort to do stop and search and the racism card gets played. It's got worse with the large number of immigrants put in hotels all over the country, the hotel local to us had police outside last night just in case there was trouble!! Unheard of near us. Honestly, scrotes can stab scrotes all day long for me, but it spills over, the victims tie up precious NHS staff, police need to deal with it and often we end up with innocent bystanders getting injured. Thankfully this kind of thing just doesn't happen in our country that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, Mice! said: Not at all, this 17 year has very deliberately gone to where these kids were enjoying their summer holidays having a Taylor Swift dance thing, it didn't just happen. If he had gone from his home and attacked people at random then it just happened, this was targeted, planned, and sick. We as a nation do not need to own it, mass shootings happen all the time in America, largely because of the access to guns. Stabbings have been happening far too often in our country for years now, and it's got far worse over the last 5-10 years, it's often Black kids Stabbing Black kids in inner city areas, yet any effort to do stop and search and the racism card gets played. It's got worse with the large number of immigrants put in hotels all over the country, the hotel local to us had police outside last night just in case there was trouble!! Unheard of near us. Honestly, scrotes can stab scrotes all day long for me, but it spills over, the victims tie up precious NHS staff, police need to deal with it and often we end up with innocent bystanders getting injured. Thankfully this kind of thing just doesn't happen in our country that often. This is why we’ve stopped debating in the past. I give up. It happened in our country by someone born here who appears not to fit the religious stereotype that many would have hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 10 minutes ago, Mice! said: Honestly, scrotes can stab scrotes all day long for me, but it spills over, the victims tie up precious NHS staff, police need to deal with it and often we end up with innocent bystanders getting injured. Thankfully this kind of thing just doesn't happen in our country that often. It happens pretty much as frequently as mass shootings. 8 times since 2020 and 7 times since 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Hes still a nasty ****** how doesent deserve to be breathing whatever religion. Still not buying the mentally ill bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: happened in our country by someone born here who appears not to fit the religious stereotype that many would have hoped for. I haven't heard what his religion is, but unfortunately I wasn't surprised to find he wasn't a white lad from Wales, had he been white then I would have been shocked. 4 minutes ago, oowee said: It happens pretty much as frequently as mass shootings. 8 times since 2020 and 7 times since 2020. So there's been 8 mass shootings since 2020 here and 7 mass stabbings?? Most of the time I just ignore these things on the news, you think it's a city problem, it's a terrorist action in London, you don't expect primary school kids in Southport to be targeted!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Starmer is after the far right for kicking up a fuss... BLM kicks off and they get the knee and comments about blacks become taboo - so blacks get better rights. Asian riots and protests get more tolerance allowance - I'm not saying that to good effect I know but grooming gangs got special rights. Other peoples get to wave their flags in our cities but if whites do that they are racist and labelled far right. I can't help but feel we are marginalised because we don't kick off enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Starmer is after the far right for kicking up a fuss... BLM kicks off and they get the knee and comments about blacks become taboo - so blacks get better rights. Asian riots and protests get more tolerance allowance - I'm not saying that to good effect I know but grooming gangs got special rights. Other peoples get to wave their flags in our cities but if whites do that they are racist and labelled far right. I can't help but feel we are marginalised because we don't kick off enough. Starmer alienated every single right minded white person in the country today, he is a disgusting creature that let Muslim rape gangs and Saville prosper under his watch. Edited August 1 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 13 hours ago, amateur said: So teeing him up nicely for a "mental health" plea and a stay in hospital. Well, obviously anyone who does things like this isn't "right". What can the possible solution be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 6 hours ago, B686 said: Hes still a nasty ****** how doesent deserve to be breathing whatever religion. Still not buying the mentally ill bit . Oh come on!!! He/anyone can't be right in the head to do that. He should just be put down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 34 minutes ago, Robden said: Oh come on!!! He/anyone can't be right in the head to do that. He should just be put down anyway. 34 minutes ago, Robden said: Oh come on!!! He/anyone can't be right in the head to do that. He should just be put down anyway. In a way I don’t disagree with you but there are some proper sick nasty ****ers out there who do unthinkable things that are not labelled mentally ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 6 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Starmer alienated every single right minded white person in the country today, he is a disgusting creature that let Muslim rape gangs and Saville prosper under his watch. hold on a mo, Saville wasn't his fault cos he said even though he was the head honcho he didn't ever deal with those allegations.🙄 what happened to the "the buck stops here" scenario 🤔 he must have been too slimy to grab it👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 I read this thread and am saddened by the rhetoric and racist tropes that are trotted out. Worse still posters don't realise that they are doing it. Racism is not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, oowee said: I read this thread and am saddened by the rhetoric and racist tropes that are trotted out. Worse still posters don't realise that they are doing it. Racism is not for me. Yes and alot of the UK are saddened by people like yourself, if you like these illegal invaders that much fill you boat with them and take them with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Sadly it’s a reflection of a minority within our society who, rather than attend the peaceful vigil, use the tragic events in Southport to go on the rampage based on their own selfish agenda and in the process demonstrate total disregard and disrespect to the victims and their families. Bunch of saddos intent on ensuring their prophecy of a burning country becomes a reality. 5 minutes ago, Luckyshot said: Yes and alot of the UK are saddened by people like yourself, if you like these illegal invaders that much fill you boat with them and take them with you. Who / where is the illegal invader in this story? My gf tells me that one of the poor girls killed in this attack was the child of a family who moved here from abroad for a better life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 8 hours ago, Mice! said: We as a nation do not need to own it, mass shootings happen all the time in America, largely because of the access to guns. The problem in America is cultural, not a result of their gun laws. The Czech Republic has similar gun laws to the U.S. and does not have a mass shooting problem. Switzerland also has rather lenient laws concerning gun control and does not have any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 16 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Sadly it’s a reflection of a minority within our society who, rather than attend the peaceful vigil, use the tragic events in Southport to go on the rampage based on their own selfish agenda and in the process demonstrate total disregard and disrespect to the victims and their families. Bunch of saddos intent on ensuring their prophecy of a burning country becomes a reality. Who / where is the illegal invader in this story? My gf tells me that one of the poor girls killed in this attack was the child of a family who moved here from abroad for a better life. No illegal invader in this terrorist attack just in nearly every other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 31 minutes ago, oowee said: I read this thread and am saddened by the rhetoric and racist tropes that are trotted out. Worse still posters don't realise that they are doing it. Racism is not for me. It's not racism oowee it's people fed up with the state the country has got in and how the British are being told to shut up while the country go's to the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 It seems like when something bad happens, there’s a minority of people whose thought process is something along the lines of: 1. Is the prep an illegal immigrant? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 2. 2. Is the perp Muslim? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 3. 3. Is the perp non-white? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 4. And so on… Worse still some appear to conclude that the answer to the first three questions is yes before they even have a remote grasp of the facts. 3 minutes ago, Luckyshot said: No illegal invader in this terrorist attack just in nearly every other one. Terrorist attack? You believe the perp intended a bigger impact from his events than purely murdering and injuring innocent children and adults? Like there’s a bigger end goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: It seems like when something bad happens, there’s a minority of people whose thought process is something along the lines of: 1. Is the prep an illegal immigrant? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 2. 2. Is the perp Muslim? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 3. 3. Is the perp non-white? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 4. And so on… Worse still some appear to conclude that the answer to the first three questions is yes before they even have a remote grasp of the facts. Ok, show me some mass stabbings done by a white British person and ill show you more from a non white person who may have been born here but they certainly are not British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: It seems like when something bad happens, there’s a minority of people whose thought process is something along the lines of: 1. Is the prep an illegal immigrant? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 2. 2. Is the perp Muslim? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 3. 3. Is the perp non-white? If yes, I knew it! If no, go to 4. And so on… Worse still some appear to conclude that the answer to the first three questions is yes before they even have a remote grasp of the facts. Terrorist attack? You believe the perp intended a bigger impact from his events than purely murdering and injuring innocent children and adults? Like there’s a bigger end goal? For someone to do what he did is not normal. Its plain terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Luckyshot said: Ok, show me some mass stabbings done by a white British person and ill show you more from a non white person who may have been born here but they certainly are not British. Fortunately for you this is not a competition. You may or may not wish to ponder “a non white person who may have been born here but they certainly are not British” but I can assure you many others will and they’ll most likely arrive at the same conclusion as I have. Thanks for confirming my hypothesis of thought process. Good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Fortunately for you this is not a competition. You may or may not wish to ponder “a non white person who may have been born here but they certainly are not British” but I can assure you many others will and they’ll most likely arrive at the same conclusion as I have. Thanks for confirming my hypothesis of thought process. Good day. There isn't many on your side on this topic bud so if you think you have the high ground you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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