The 'right' discouraging illegals?

[oldypigeonpopper]

19 minutes ago, janner said:

I didnt even know that they still had the tory party in those oft ignored corners of our nation,

Perhaps thats why the tories have, to coin an old phrase 'planted' migrants into those far flung and generally forgotten about corners,

Adding a bit of the 'get up and go' dna to the local gene pool may reap rewards in a generation or two,

Hello, There will be no reward for our UK young people in years to come, If you have Children or Grand Children Janner they will be bottom of the pile if we keep on taking in Illegal migrants as Labour wish to, and OUR way of life in UK will be gone forever

Edited August 11 by oldypigeonpopper

[oldypigeonpopper]

6 minutes ago, B686 said:

Someone said to me the other day that Starmer and labour are a bigger threat to this country than Putin. Beginning to believe that.

Hello, Labour are showing their true colors 🤔

[Zoli 12 guage]

3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, Labour are showing their true colors 🤔

or colours even,to all on this side of the pond 👍😉

[amateur]

25 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, Labour are showing their true colors 🤔

This is standard, historical labour, blended with Blair's interference with the voting pool, civil service and judiciary.

[Flashman]

1 hour ago, amateur said:

This is standard, historical labour, blended with Blair's interference with the voting pool, civil service and judiciary.

The Tories have five years to pick a decent leader and come up with a plan to undo this mess - partly of their own making. I don’t think Reform are “builders,” more disrupters.  However, their actions will force the Tories to confront the wider problems beyond small boats. 
Much energy should be focussed on how the country is run and the de-politicisation of Civil Service, DPP, teaching and welfare.  
That the Labour govt. is run by a civil rights lawyer and a ex-senior civil servant is proof, if needed, that Labour’s hooks are deep into those structures that must be free of such influence.  

[janner]

2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, There will be no reward for our UK young people in years to come, If you have Children or Grand Children Janner they will be bottom of the pile if we keep on taking in Illegal migrants as Labour wish to, and OUR way of life in UK will be gone forever

I have both children and grandchildren and for your information in my part of the world us ethnic Brits have already been pushed to the bottom of the pile when it comes to housing and services etc,

 The cause is white flight immigration

 

 

[Dave-G]

1 hour ago, Flashman said:

The Tories have five years to pick a decent leader and come up with a plan to undo this mess - partly of their own making. I don’t think Reform are “builders,” more disrupters.  However, their actions will force the Tories to confront the wider problems beyond small boats. 
Much energy should be focussed on how the country is run and the de-politicisation of Civil Service, DPP, teaching and welfare.  
That the Labour govt. is run by a civil rights lawyer and a ex-senior civil servant is proof, if needed, that Labour’s hooks are deep into those structures that must be free of such influence.  

Spot on. 

[old man]

The sad thing that none of these politicians from all sides seem to grasp is the historical lesson that eventually follows the repeated ignoring of the will of the people?

Maybe here now we have gone past the simple ignoring phase to the wilful stage?

[12gauge82]

And another 2 migrants have died attempting to cross the channel, that's another 2 lives sacrificed on the alter of political correctness, by our politicians too afraid to take the necessary steps, to prevent attempted crossings, for fear of their image being 'damaged' by the woke mob screaming racism if the boats were actually stopped. 

There is literally blood on the hands of those who pretend to be concerned about the illegal migrants, it makes me sad, human lives wasted. 

[JohnfromUK]

18 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, Labour are showing their true colors 🤔

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13733923/Angela-Rayner-abandons-plans-priority-British-citizens-migrants-council-house-waiting-lists.html

[Zoli 12 guage]

I have a bit of a business opportunity here if the government would sanction it.

put a ferry service on from Calais to Dover AND charge the passengers 15 grand each.

this will free up the Border Force and RNLI to do what they should be doing and still offers a safe and subversive route into our country AND,hey presto!!!!!

I've also "smashed the gangs"

i could also collect all the phones that they usually lob into the drink,wipe and refurb them and you get another lucrative business Ebaying them🤔🤔

same with the identity documents/passports👍

knock them out at a decent price to other willing participants gathering in North Africa.this will be self perpetuating so is a real money spinner here with no actual outlay just all incoming money.

i would obviously be paying tax and NI on these earnings so everyone wins👍👍

[Penelope]

On 10/08/2024 at 09:52, Mungler said:

The fiscal benefits of mass immigration have long been debunked; in total, more is taken out over a lifetime than put back in. It’s all part of the mass brain washing - no one voted for net immigration of 1,000,000 a year and yet here we are force fed the ‘benefits’ of cultural enrichment, told how everyone is an asylum seeker (not an economic migrant) and how the economy ‘needs’ the man power (which is nonsense as GDP per capita plummets).

It’s an absolute mess and the cunning trick of the left (bearing in mind the left control education and media) was to call anyone questioning any aspect of mass immigration as racist thereby stifling any discussion or debate. 

Want to stop mass immigration? Turn off all the benefits. It’s the benefits that skew the natural economic order of global economic migration. 

It’s all very odd though in hindsight. Isn’t the primary obligation of any country’s government to its population? If the population truly knew back in the late 1990’s what lay ahead… and soon, those who can remember what life was like pre 1997 will pass on and no one will know or understand what has been lost.

An amazing trick to pull by the politicians and bizarrely across all parties.

But I then I really wonder about motivation - who has benefited? Was cheap unskilled labour that important in the scheme of economic growth? Were the routes to sorting out the white non working underclass that hard? Couldn’t law abiding working / middle classes be encouraged to have more children?

Hindsight gives us some answers but not all. At least the issues are coming out into the open. That said, I won’t hold my breath that Labour will tackle any aspect of immigration and integration and so the next 5 years (along with the country being bankrupt) is going to be a bumpy ride.

Everyone should of course read / listen to all of Douglas Murray’s books - quite prophetic given when they were written.

Exactly.

 

Which make me consider whether the orders are from up above?

 

The man has been spot on; for some considerable time.

[johnphilip]

2 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

I have a bit of a business opportunity here if the government would sanction it.

put a ferry service on from Calais to Dover AND charge the passengers 15 grand each.

this will free up the Border Force and RNLI to do what they should be doing and still offers a safe and subversive route into our country AND,hey presto!!!!!

I've also "smashed the gangs"

i could also collect all the phones that they usually lob into the drink,wipe and refurb them and you get another lucrative business Ebaying them🤔🤔

same with the identity documents/passports👍

knock them out at a decent price to other willing participants gathering in North Africa.this will be self perpetuating so is a real money spinner here with no actual outlay just all incoming money.

i would obviously be paying tax and NI on these earnings so everyone wins👍👍

That's labour's next plan .

[janner]

Perhaps the u.k's many 'too poorly to work' sofa dwellers and the 'sponge off mummy and daddy' festival going generation should wonder if their reluctance to do a proper days work is in some way a cause of the economic migration by those willing to get their hands dirty who travel thousands of miles at great personal risk to take the many jobs that home grown Brits cannot seem to be incentivised to do,

[johnphilip]

4 minutes ago, janner said:

Perhaps the u.k's many 'too poorly to work' sofa dwellers and the 'sponge off mummy and daddy' festival going generation should wonder if their reluctance to do a proper days work is in some way a cause of the economic migration by those willing to get their hands dirty who travel thousands of miles at great personal risk to take the many jobs that home grown Brits cannot seem to be incentivised to do,

And do these countries they travel through , not have job opportunities for them . The sick lame and lazy what do you think there polical views are. . Give you a clue they are the ones. Demonstrating  on the streets, just stop oil   but to name but a few.

hard working right wing are at work paying there Giro. No time through the week to protest .

[janner]

Tbh i have seen the sick and lazy embracing farage's new party as it takes the 'whos to blame' spotlight off them,

From what i saw on the news last week i wouldnt want one of those hard working, giro paying, brick'a'throwin, race'a'baiting, fire'a'lighting, flag'a'besmirchin, class'a'a snortin thugs employed in any job that needs an honest person of good character and integrity.

Edited August 12 by janner

[johnphilip]

14 minutes ago, janner said:

Tbh i have seen the sick and lazy embracing farage's new party as it takes the 'whos to blame' spotlight off them,

From what i saw on the news last week i wouldnt want one of those hard working, giro paying, brick'a'throwin, race'a'baiting, fire'a'lighting, flag'a'besmirchin, class'a'a snortin thugs employed in any job that needs an honest person of good character and integrity.

But who were they these you talk of . Were they infact. The sick lame and lazy . Who were those who protested at the offices  of the Reform party.  Looked like the great unwashed to me .

Oh and no comment on the channel crosser not taking up work on there journey. Through many countries  to get to the UK.  Oh because those countries won't give them anything. 

[Zoli 12 guage]

20 minutes ago, janner said:

Tbh i have seen the sick and lazy embracing farage's new party as it takes the 'whos to blame' spotlight off them,

From what i saw on the news last week i wouldnt want one of those hard working, giro paying, brick'a'throwin, race'a'baiting, fire'a'lighting, flag'a'besmirchin, class'a'a snortin thugs employed in any job that needs an honest person of good character and integrity.

so you'd just employ would be rapists/child groomers/homophobes/Isreal haters and suicide bombers then🤔

all the traits that puts the "great" in Great Britain 👍

Edited August 12 by Zoli 12 guage

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, I have no problem with genuine foreign nationals coming to UK with a Passport, Work Visa, Job to go to, Accommodation sorted as like the NHS  , But not those who come to UK by illegal means that is costing UK tax payers Multi Millions of pounds when this money could be better spent on our own citizens, 

[janner]

One home grown rock/bottle throwing crim,

Out,

Somebody with the wherewithal to travel across continents to better themselves,

In,

Simple.

Edited August 12 by janner

[johnphilip]

20 minutes ago, janner said:

One home grown rock/bottle throwing crim,

Out,

Somebody with the wherewithal to travel across continents to better themselves,

In,

Simple.

Well they are not  going about it the right way , an airplane flight is far cheaper and more likely  to get a visa with the right paper work ....... oh hang on they have thrown away there passports .

Let you into a secret  they are coming here to take over .

[TIGHTCHOKE]

26 minutes ago, janner said:

Somebody with the wherewithal to travel across continents to better themselves,

Illegally at this countrys tax payers expense.

[B686]

With all these coming here in boats it won’t be long before this country is turned into a third world **** hole the same as where they have come from. As for brick and rock throwing so called right wing nazis, I would rather that than knife waving machete wielding scum bags with their masks and head bands with Arabic on no doubt something to do with free bloody Palestine or hamas but that’s ok. 

[Penelope]

1 hour ago, janner said:

One home grown rock/bottle throwing crim,

Out,

Somebody with the wherewithal to travel across continents to better themselves,

In,

Simple.

[janner]

2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Illegally at this countrys tax payers expense.

They would be a lot more of an asset to this country than our home grown 'too obese to work' crew,.

In my younger days people the size of oliver hardy were a rarity,

Now it seem to be about 50% of the native people i see shopping are obese,

If these are the people that we expect to do the jobs that migrants come here to do then gawd help us,