acosta.mirna Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 I borrowed one of those arrow laser shots from a friend as my scores have been below par lately. I measured out about 16 yards and attached a piece of paper on my gate with a large black dot in the center. I mounted the gun and fired the laser and was 3" low and about 4" to the left. I remounted half a dozen times with the same result. Now I don't know what to do and I wish I had left well alone. Has anyone used one and how should you interpret the result. Now I am thinking I need to raise the comb and increase the cast. Are the any instructors on here who could give me some advice. I have a 682 gold e. Thanks Acosta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Acosta, no doubt you will get replies from the fantastic knowledge base that this forum contains, unfortunately the only advice that I could give is as follows…… go and see a professional and have a gun fitting session! Now that you have down the seed of doubt it will only grow and grow. My view is, nip it in the bud asap with a gun fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 I agree entirely with SPR pov. It’s money well,spent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 (edited) Agree with above, that seems like a huge gun fit issue. the comb height and cast issue maybe a factor.... Are you right or left handed and do you know what (If Any) cast your gun has?? A low impact point indicates a comb height too low. Edited October 9 by BobbyH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 Some years ago a friend and I, each bought one of these Arrow laser tools. They both gave similar results that you have. However, twisting the device within the barrel and doing the test again gave a completely different result and much more what we were expecting to see. In my opinion they're not worth the money and you'd do better testing POA and POI on a pattern board and live testing on clay targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 Agree with PhilR - been there, done it, ditched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Thats interesting!! I have a laser in the shape of a 12g cartridge, is that the same as what your on about? When i used/use this, every time it is straight and is true to my POI, every single time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 14 minutes ago, BobbyH said: Thats interesting!! I have a laser in the shape of a 12g cartridge, is that the same as what your on about? When i used/use this, every time it is straight and is true to my POI, every single time? The Arrow gizmo is an aluminium tube with three spring loaded ball bearings at 120° to centralise it in the muzzle end of the barrel when you insert it. There's a screw in fixture at the front of the tube, external to the muzzle, that contains the battery operated laser and a length of cable with a metal clip attached you put on your trigger finger. When you mount the unloaded gun and aim it at whatever you want to check the POA on and touch the trigger it completes the electric circuit and the laser lights up and the beam hits whatever you're pointing at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Ahh i see, that sounds fancy!!! I just use a laser inside a metal 12g cartridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 In my experience no ‘gizmo’ will correct an ill fitting stock or correct an inconsistent mount. There are no quick fixes. If there were then we’d all be using them. Having a few lessons with a good coach will pay dividends, then after that it’s just years and years of practice. Buying a gun with an adjustable comb will help, but that’s just the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 G. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 I shoot multiple guns all with different shapes sizes and weights currently getting back on with the 16 bore side and side ready for the beating season a lesson with a CPSA bod or coach and check your mount and gun fit a decent gun shop may also take a look at gun fit. finally a pattern plate would be a better guide than a laser Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Those lazers aren't always true, I'd do it all again and if you can rotate the Lazer mechanism and see if the point moves about, if it doesn't get a gun fit like everyone suggests, if it does move about get a gun fit anyway, it can only help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalgeezer Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Personal opinion Professional Gun Fit - but still be mindful as choosing your professional gun fitter I have heard about some being awesome as equal as some being equally not so good. You do pay for what you get is perhaps a good rule of thumb. Pattern Board - to confirm what you think the Laser is showing you Shotcam - buy or borrow opens your eyes to what is really going on too... Try one pre or post gun fit But there will always be a hundred opinions but Gun Fit and Shotcam helped me understand things better and annoyingly I should really have known my self but like many, you try to mould yourself around the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 On 08/10/2024 at 22:39, acosta.mirna said: I borrowed one of those arrow laser shots from a friend as my scores have been below par lately. I measured out about 16 yards and attached a piece of paper on my gate with a large black dot in the center. I mounted the gun and fired the laser and was 3" low and about 4" to the left. I remounted half a dozen times with the same result. Now I don't know what to do and I wish I had left well alone. Has anyone used one and how should you interpret the result. Now I am thinking I need to raise the comb and increase the cast. Are the any instructors on here who could give me some advice. I have a 682 gold e. Place the gun level on something solid like a picnic table and repeat the exercise without the human part. I strongly suggest the gun does NOT fit you and you will need help to get it shooting where you are looking. Please let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 On 09/10/2024 at 14:13, Gordon R said: Agree with PhilR - been there, done it, ditched it. Watched and listened to others, spent my money on cartridges and experiments with foam rubber and insulation tape ! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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