Sprinter Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi, Currently shooting a Lyvale (Express) Special Game in No6 fibre wad and the barrels after a few shots are absolutely filthy and are a right pain to clean and get shining. It's like looking down the tubes of a black powder burner. Can anyone recommend a cleaner shooting fibre wad cartridge? I need a fibre wad as some of my permissions are grassland and i shoot in a fibre only syndicate in winter. I suppose i could buy half fibre and half plastic for the other bits of land but i still don't like the idea of leaving little bits of plastic lying around for my childrens children to have to worry about cleaning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgit Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Rottweil 28 gm 7.5 Plastic.......burn clean. slight black on chokes but ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Victory 480 felt, spotless, just pricey now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdey03 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Rottweil mrk 30 brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 anything FOB seems to be clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 anything FOB seems to be clean Fried Onion Bahjees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Anything but D and J. Absloute ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Anything but D and J. Absloute ****. i use D&J's at my local club mainly because i am on a tight budget. is the reason they are **** because the are just dirty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Not only are they dirty, they jam in my 12g, and a few people on here have reported several in a box of 25 that just don't go bang ! A better budget (clay) shell choice is either Rio Trap or Eley Firsts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrodo Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I have experianced a few problems with D&J as well.....the brass pulling off the hulls on extraction leaving the hull in the chamber, primers not seated properly so no detonation on the first try and exceptionally dirty on the bores making cleaning a real chore. They seem to do the job when they fire okay but I won't buy them again. F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 To be honest, I used to shoot with D & Js all the time, without a problem and I didn't even find them particularly dirty. The only reason why I stopped using them is that when cartridges started rising in price, D & Js just went silly and some of the places near me just stopped stocking them, because they were overcharging. Never had even one misfire, in thousands of cartridges. I suspect some of them don't have any shot in, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I find Gamebore quite clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I've qalways found cheap RIO's very clean. I bought a thousand Eley firsts recently, it takes about 10 times as long to get barrels clean and I have very tough marks round the forcing cones that I can't shift. I can;t use the Eley's up quickly enough - have been putting as many as I can through the gun and then finishing with a box of RIO's to try to clean it through a bit before I stop shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Express use high quality powders. If your barrels are dirty after using them is likely that storage or useage conditions, rather than the cartridge, are your problem. Cartridge powder is like silica gel, and takes up moisture easily from surrounding air. Then they burn dirty. It will even happen if you store well but are out in damp conditions. Before you rush off and get another brand, and find no difference, check that you are storing at room temp ( not in the garage unless heated), and that humidity in the storage is low, and that they stay warm and dry in your cartridge bag when out shooting. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) Before you rush off and get another brand, and find no difference, check that you are storing at room temp ( not in the garage unless heated), and that humidity in the storage is low, and that they stay warm and dry in your cartridge bag when out shooting. Jerry Carts are stored fine by me but i cannot vouch for them before i get hold of them. Local supplier seems to keep them in a shipping container outside, maybe thats it. Anyway have bitten the bullet as it were and have bought some Eley CT from an alternate source. I suppose i should have pointed out in my first post that these are for a 20 gauge, kinda limits my choice a bit. Edited February 20, 2008 by Sprinter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Not only are they dirty, they jam in my 12g, and a few people on here have reported several in a box of 25 that just don't go bang ! All my lyvale/express have gone bang so far with the notable exception of 3 that wont even chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deer stalker Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 If you want clean fast cartridges i would recomend: ELEY VIP in any load RC 4 caccia ELEY grand prix and impact Game bores super game hi bird and OK GAME by noble sports BUT DO NOT USE HULLS THREE CROWN i hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Ambient temperature makes a large difference to how clean/dirty a cartridge burns, the Eley Olympic Sporting that I am using at present burn very dirty in cold weather, but in hot weather, the bores are left spotless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 If you want clean fast cartridges i would recomend: ELEY VIP in any load RC 4 caccia ELEY grand prix and impact Game bores super game hi bird and OK GAME by noble sports BUT DO NOT USE HULLS THREE CROWN i hope this helps why do you say no to 3 crowns i hate them aswell but the OK game are fantastick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) FC Edited April 27, 2008 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Just clean your bloody gun after shooting and stop moaning! :yp: :lol: Probably the best advice on here There's an awful lot of flannel bandied about regarding "dirty" cartridges. Usually a bit of unburnt powder that gets blasted out with the next shot. If you clean your gun occasionally, I don't see a bit of muck as much of a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deer stalker Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 why do you say no to 3 crowns i hate them aswell but the OK game are fantastick There just not constant eought like 2 cartidges out of the same box and batch will not be even slighty simalar and the amount of unburnt powder is unreal and these were no old cartidges!! also i have tried them in all of my 12 bores and the one that refusted to use the was my new Beretta xtrema2 they would jam in the action and some times the cartridge would not fit in the camber because the end was to big! and the funny thing is it would cyical through all of the other ones plus some others i cannt remeber. I REALLY DONT RATE HULL INGENERAL BUT I DO RATE RC,GAMEBORE.ELEY,NOBEL SPORT,EXPRESS AND VICTORY YES OK GAME ARE FANTASTICK TO BAD THAT ITS HARD TO GET THE FIBER WAD VESTION AND I KNOW THAT JUST CARTRIDGES SELL THEM BUT FOR A 250 BOX OF WHAT EVER TAKE A MIMIUM OF £12 QUID OF IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 hb pigeon always use them on everything do not use d&J thay are so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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