jojusa Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 A woman has been trampled to death while walking her dogs in a field of cows with calves. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...alked-dogs.html It's a warning to all who venture into fields with livestock, be on your guard at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Any body who spends their time around live stock will be very wary of a cow with a calf . Any stockman will tell you not to take them for granted they can be very dangerous . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Its very sad when this happens,but people should give cattle respect purely because of their size.Normally i'll avoid fields when i see cow and calf cos i know how protective they can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 i shot a grey back crow on saturday and it landed in a pen with calves and cows in it; decided not to take any chances so i sent richie in to pick it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 They were discussing this on the radio this morning and were talking some absolute **** about how Health and Safety should ensure that people are not at danger whilst walking in the countryside.... It isn't the frigging cow's fault if you walk into the field it lives in!! It is your responsibility to take care in a field of livestock and ensure your dog is under control. If you can't keep your dog under control around livestock, keep it on a lead and don't enter a fenced off field, regardless if a public footpath crosses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I dont tend to read the 'Daily Wail'..........sad story all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronster Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 you know what them ramblers are like they have the right to roam and they will do it no matter what the outcome will be maybe this will make them think abit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I have the utmost respect for any creature that has a +200 lb advantage over yours truly. Applying this basic concept as a rule will see anyone safe and free from the harm of: 1. rhinos, lions, elephants, buffalo etc 2. door men at the Circus Tavern 3. the mother in law. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I have the utmost respect for any creature that has a +200 lb advantage over yours truly. Applying this basic concept as a rule will see anyone safe and free from the harm of: 1. rhinos, lions, elephants, buffalo etc 2. door men at the Circus Tavern 3. the mother in law. Nuff said. mung do what i do, just carry buckshot at all times, it negates that 200lb advantage they have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 mung do what i do, just carry buckshot at all times, it negates that 200lb advantage they have In the words of Les Dawson,: A. that would just make her angry B. that ought to be enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintime Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I know a bloke who had his sgc + firearms licence revoked for warning people about there dogs running loose where there was livestock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I know a bloke who had his sgc + firearms licence revoked for warning people about there dogs running loose where there was livestock happened a guy i know, lost his guns for 6 months, saw a dog chasing his sheep and went to the owners house to tell him, unfortunately he had his gun in his hand at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 They were discussing this on the radio this morning and were talking some absolute **** about how Health and Safety should ensure that people are not at danger whilst walking in the countryside.... It isn't the frigging cow's fault if you walk into the field it lives in!! It is your responsibility to take care in a field of livestock and ensure your dog is under control. If you can't keep your dog under control around livestock, keep it on a lead and don't enter a fenced off field, regardless if a public footpath crosses it. sort of, but the problem happens when people have their dogs under control. the cattle go for the dogs and the people hold onto the lead and get crushed as the cows go for the dog. The only thing to do is let the dog go as it will outrun the cows and stand your ground. Cows are used to being handled by people its just the dogs they have issue with every one of these incidents you'll find the people have tried to protect their dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 People are quite ignorant of the countryside... Last week I was on some marsh I look after when 200++ yards from the footpath I saw a young woman walking dog/ pram with young child walking alongside. There was a several cows and calves in the field so I chose to go and have a word letting her know the dangers. She was a little offhand at first, saying that she was'nt doing anyharm-But once I pointed that ist'nt the problem,if these lot get upset you won't know what to do, she realized the dangers. In the end I put her and the kids in motor and took her off the field for which in the end she was grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You would of thought a vet would know better to ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think the farmers should have some responsibility when it comes to cows/calf and a public footpath knowing that many dog walkers will venture into the field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 People on the TV have been saying that the cows saw the dog as a danger. I'm not so sure. I once had a dog run away from some heifers who cornered her against a hedge. When I caught up, she was soaking wet from being licked. If this woman was in a field of suckler cows, there was likely to be a bull present for the next round of breeding. Perfectly lawful in field crossed by a footpath if it is a beef breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think the farmers should have some responsibility when it comes to cows/calf and a public footpath knowing that many dog walkers will venture into the field! Tell that to the farmer you next ask for permission to shoot on his land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You would of thought a vet would know better to ! I'm not so sure. In my experience vets seem to know, quite rightly, about animal diseases, wounds, illness, etc. I'm not convinced they know much about animal psychology though. Perhaps it's just the ones I've met...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 People on the TV have been saying that the cows saw the dog as a danger. I'm not so sure. I once had a dog run away from some heifers who cornered her against a hedge. When I caught up, she was soaking wet from being licked. they do see the dog as a threat, that piece is one of the better written Daily Mail articles and actually has some decent information on there for a change. As for the woman being a vet well she could be a small animal vet so have few dealings with cows but was definitely in the wrong field at the wrong time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Health and Safety legislation does not apply to recreational users of land in this context. It's more an issue of the Occupiers' Liability Acts 1957 and 1984. Irrespective of the law, it's an unfortunate and entirely preventable death. I have lived and worked amongst dairy and beef cattle all my life, and they are very unpredictable, dairy breeds especially. Dogs and cattle do not mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Common sense, common sense and a bit more common sense is what is required in the countryside. Unfortunately these days common sense ain't so common! I have fished in a field which either had sheep or a suckler herd with a bull present since I was 5 years old and was taught from an early age how to behave around cattle. This has served me well other than the odd sticky incident with too many boisterous bullocks or a single occasion when the bull had a bit of an off day and pinned us down the bank for a while. Nothing that couldn't be easily resolved though. I find it very sad that people are blaming farmers for things that happened after they went on their land with dogs. It is after all a working environment, there are many equally dangerous areas of work that the general public would not be allowed anywhere near such as quarries. All in all a sad story though. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I would just punch the Bull out like would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Very sad indeed, but what difference does it make that she was a vet, perhaps her practice does small animals, nothing to do with farm animals, and unfortunately the "countryside" is becoming a playground for all the townies, I drove over the mountain road yesterday to go to Swansea, and after the weekend there are bin bags and carrier bags all over the place full of cxxp where people have been camping, not that they are allowed to, but the good 'ol national parks choose to ignor it, or it could be they only work monday to friday and what goes on at weekends is unbeleivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Any body who knows the countryside will know that cows can be dangerous and pigs even more so . Use your loaf when around livestock . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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