whitehackle Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Iv read that HV ammo isnt as accurate as standard bullets or subs. So what HV rounds are people shooting and what would you say are the best? thank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostWomble Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 CCI Mini-Mag Nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 CCI Mini-Mag Nuff said I found them, Dire - group like a shotgun, that's if they fire in the 1st place! It goes to show every rifle is different.. and you should test fire whatever ammo you can get your hands on locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 (edited) . Edited September 20, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizzy Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 The reason they claim hv ammo is not as acurate, is that as a bullet drop through the speed of sound, it suffers turbulence. Subs of course start and finish below the speed of sound.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Winchester Lasers, in my rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 there was a similar thread a week or two back and several people posted that CCI velociters were very accurate, i bought a box to try in my cz452 and yes they were, haven't tried any others but the velociters were as accurate as the winchester subs at 60yds, i didnt try them any further though mkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minghis Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 (edited) I too would have to say that CCI Mini Mags are the best for my rifle, a Sako Finnfire. Many say they are rubbish, but as has been said here before it does really seem that every rifle has it's favourite HV round. I've just bought a brick of Winchester Lazers and tried a handfull at the same zero (90 good paces) as the Mini Mags. They were 2" higher and all over the place left and right - they were virtualy unuseable. Both I understand are 36 grains, so I would have expected them to be somewhere near the zero of the CCI's but it was not to be. I would say though that if I were to persevere and put another 50 through the gun they would get better. You know how in motor racing they say 'the track comes to them the more rubber gets laid down'? Well I reckon it's the same with our rimfire rounds, the more you use the better the barrel likes them. Persevere with one type, whether it's the cheap and cheerful CCI's or the high end Winchesters - then stick with them! Edited August 6, 2009 by minghis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 CCI velocitors in my CZ style are good, not tried others. (CCI CB longs - the other end of the scale at 32ft/lbs are grouping 3inches + at 50yards. - I have 180 to get rid of if they shoot in your rifle you are welcome) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 CCI velocitors in my CZ style are good, not tried others. (CCI CB longs - the other end of the scale at 32ft/lbs are grouping 3inches + at 50yards. - I have 180 to get rid of if they shoot in your rifle you are welcome) In my local shop you have a choice of about 20 brands- I have always used winchester subs, most likely the cheapest but even they can be hard to come by sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 In my local shop you have a choice of about 20 brands- I have always used winchester subs, most likely the cheapest but even they can be hard to come by sometimes. i went into workwear in eye last week to get 500 win subs but could only get 200, i'm nearly out so i hope they have some more soon mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Winchester Wildcat solids work very well in my CZ 452 varmint at up to 75 mts but presume you need HP's! try em if you can find em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Localy I found 8 different types & tried them. I found through my 452 all were shottie groups compared to subs. After messing about with about half a box from each type I decided they all were acurate enough to bowl over a rabbit or crow at just over 100yds, just a different aim point compared to the subs. My normal range is 60/80 yds & again just a different aim point. No advantage to useing them so I have a few to either swop with any one who wants to try out HV's or just slowly waste them plinking. It looks like extra power .22lr's don't work for hunting but we all try, just to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 It very much depends on your barrel and all barrels seem to have some types of ammo that suit them and some that just doesn't. It also greatly depends on what the rate of twist is in the barrel. Most barrels are optimised to give best accuracy at standard velocities but actually there are more differences between .22 barrels than you might imagine. Its nearly all down to the rifling, rate if twist, depth of rifling and the number of grooves etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpshot Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 cci stingers work well for me as do the mini mags nice little round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Can't answer your question as I wasn't happy with any HV ammo I tried. In fact I would happily give away the remaining HV ammo I have for free just to be rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 there was a similar thread a week or two back and several people posted that CCI velociters were very accurate, i bought a box to try in my cz452 and yes they were, haven't tried any others but the velociters were as accurate as the winchester subs at 60yds, i didnt try them any further though mkee I hope none of you are putting HV rounds through your lovely moderators.......You will burn them out, As I found out for myself a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minghis Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) I hope none of you are putting HV rounds through your lovely moderators.......You will burn them out, As I found out for myself a few years ago Could you elaborate on this - I had no idea this could happen and yes, I am now using nothing other than HV's and I didn't think of taking the moderator off. What's the worst case scenario - anything dangerous? Edited August 12, 2009 by minghis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Winchester Lasers, in my rifle. Another vote for the Lasers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectra26 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I've been using HV through my mod for years, no problems and no excessive wear. Just picked up some American Eagle HV 40gr solid this morning, first time for it in my 10/22, looking forward to seeing how it shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Could you elaborate on this - I had no idea this could happen and yes, I am now using nothing other than HV's and I didn't think of taking the moderator off. What's the worst case scenario - anything dangerous? get a variation and swap it for an HMR, theres no point at all in having a .22lr and using HV's all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minghis Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 get a variation and swap it for an HMR, theres no point at all in having a .22lr and using HV's all the time Well there is. Noise, economy, hassle and choice! I'm quite happy as I am, thanks. As are, I guess, thousands of others.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectra26 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Well I tried the American Eagle ammo this morning. Bit disappointed. It's more consistent than the Thunderbolt, noticably more recoil, but it gave me plenty of stovepipes Accuracy was about the same. Out of 50 rounds got a few dull pops too. So Thunderbolts, although audibly inconsistent, still give me the best reliability in my 10/22 so far. This morning I fired 100 Thunderbolts, not one stoppage, and out of 50 American Eagle, I lost count on the stoppages I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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