Minky

I completely understand this. My eldest sister didn't fair well with a bad covid attack. She has had to go into a care home and is paying £4500 a month for the privilege . They have taken most of her life savings and are looking at her family home. SO last year's holiday to Tenerife and this year's to Madeira have mainly been paid for by my tax free part of my pension pot. Both myself and the Mrs have sufficient other funds. SO I am going to enjoy the fruits of my labours before some private company dips their hands into my pockets so that they can enjoy my labour.

Well, The Mrs and I watched all of it. This country can be proud of what we as a nation are capable of. It did leave a fair amount of emotion with the ancient ritual. At one point you could see the weight that was on Charles face. He really looked grey at at one point I thought that he looked as if he might throw up. When you realise that some here may say that it doesn't concern them they should consider the hundreds of millions of people from all over the world who hold the royal family in high esteem. When the reporter was speaking to people on the mall a lot of them seemed to come from other countries. AND IF the royal family weren't in that position, who would be. The Beatles, Arthur Scarghill. Jeremy corbin, the spice girls.? What about Keir starmer. OR someone who has been born to fulfil the role as a figurehead above it all, who only wants good for the country and it's people. They say that young people don't care but all four of our daughters, their friends and families were very keen to watch it as a spectacular event full of pomp and pageantry. Two of the youngest daughters friends went up and camped out overnight on the Mall and they are late twenties. AND I didn't mind watching Penny Maudant.

Yes... I would

Where could I buy a piece of leather to repair one of my cartridge bags. IT was FULLY loaded and when I picked it up the tab mounting point on the side broke. Just wear and tear and the leather was paper thin. Now I could go and buy another bag BUT the bag overall is still good. it is a solid quality bag that has served me well and carries a lot of memories. It's got blood on it. I have the ability to make and stitch a new piece on both points which could be made double thick which would last me out and more. It is a light tan colour. If I could find a piece about a foot square it would do all of the repairs. I could perhaps hunt down the local Sadler bloke but he is all ways busy and I would like it sometime in the next year.... or so.

The weak point will be the primers. IF the ignite they will do the same as if they were made last year. give the barrels a good clean afterwards.

This is not the first time that I've heard of this. How the hell in this day and age of computerised records can they not know what is out there or who has got what. I remember that down on the military ranges that after the police had been down there shooting that there were a lot of live rounds scattered around on the ground at the firing point and that somehow when one outfit left the firing range two handguns had been left on the vehicles and as they drove off the guns fell off onto the road and were recovered by members of the public. Absolute shambles. AND these are the people who are operating the laws.

Ps to above post. How can it be a situation where the plod are so totally inept. Applications not processed. Variations taking months. New applications not processed. Feo's coming out with any old statement that takes their fancy. Applicants having to pay for meaningless doctors certificates. Where is basic challenging any of this. Basic should publish how they are challenging this. Plod is judge, jury and executioner in this. It wrong and soon they won't be any shooters for basic to say they represent. P45 time. And I don't care if some don't like what I write. It's the truth and you know it is.

Most of the firearms atrocities have occured becase plod didn't remove firearms from people who plod had been warned about. I belong to a rifle club and we had a bloke turn up who was a dangerous person. In short he was a nutter. A potentially dangerous violent nutter who wanted to get a ticket to obtain firearms. In his head he planned to become an rfd in order to access firearms. Club officials notified plod about this situation. The club stalled this blokes club application and he then attempted to join another club . We know some members of that club and notified them about our concerns. They came to the same conclusion as we had and also notified plod.!!! What did plod do.? They issued matey with a certificate. .!! After plod issued Matey with a certificate he never went back to the club and disappeared from view. In my opinion he should never have been allowed anywhere near any sort of weapon. Or pushbike. Basics attempt is as always low power and a long way behind the curve. I really care. It makes me so angry. How can it be that we are charged a fee and then suddenly we have to pay for a doctor who doesn't even know who we are to certify that we aren't a risk. Madness. Basic is just not fit for purpose. Total waste of time.

Apparently a sausage ... burger manufacture in Yorkshire had stopped making most of these products because the "public isn't ready ". Does this surprise me... Nahh... The only time that I was ISSUED QUORN. It went in the bin..!! there is no way that it would be issued to the spaniel. It was supposed to be a burger but it was cross between tough corrugated cardboard and compressed sawdust. SHE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD LIKE IT AND THAT IT WOULD BE A CHANGE. .! The burger thing went in the bin. Yuk . AND... they recon that it's not the product, IT'S THE PRICE! !. So that means that meat products are cheaper than veg ones. Also the sales have dropped by a half.!

It's all a bit of a guessing game with this one because they shoot very well and when used in the Beretta you would never know anything was different. I have used a vernier and checked the primer pocket diameters and they appear to have a couple of thou tension so they shouldn't blow out. I have saved the mangled primer that was found inside of the action but because it was mangled it doesn't contribute any evidence. The bloke who's gun and cartridge they are isn't someone who would consider contacting a manufacturer about these because basically even though there are /were problems they still went bang and broke the clays very well. we don't score and as previously written we don't have just one shooter shooting one clay at a time. it is a sort od flurry of clays and shooting. I think that he shot the slab off on that day. If the gun played up another day with some other slab brand then he might clean the action out or more likely get rid of the gun. He has loads of other guns to shoot so it doesn't really matter. It was so unusual to have this happen. Ps. when I next communicate with him I will enquire if he has given it a bit of a clean. In the meantime I brought the feed sack of cases home to go through for certain ones for reloading so I'll do a bit more measuring of primers and pockets when I get the time.

They'll definitely need SPECIALISTS to examine and identify what sort of shotgun cartridges they are. Oh I see plod isn't sure that they are shotgun cartridges ... they could be tubes of POLO MINTS ...... OR.......HEAVEN FORBID. ...... FRUIT PASTILES......PATHETIC ISNT IT.

Hahaha. ... I am CONSIDERABLY TALLER THAN YOW. 😁😂😃 WHAT A TOTAL TWONK.

The strange thing in all of this is that the cartridges go bang, they kill the clay AND most of the time they eject quite happily. They were also fired in a Beretta with no problems or issues at all. no external signs of difference. they all came from same slab. The gun is as clean as a whistle so crud build up is a small consideration at present. The problem with diagnosing this is that it isn't a consistent fault and the only time that you know that something odd has happened is when you pull the trigger and nothing happens. the speed of the action is such that you'd never see what happened. when the cartridge jam is cleared the gun may shoot a couple of boxes before the next issue. He will do a full strip (including taking the bolt apart) and a good clean of all parts of carbon and crud! and see what is found .... If anything. We only shoot for fun so there is no pull or scoring and we have multiple electric traps so there may be a lot of clays in the air at any time with several guns shooting these at the same time. we shoot until either no ammo left, no clays left or the guns are so hot you can't hold them. good fun. The bloke wouldn't bother because the cartridge are all going bang and killing the clays. the vast majority work ok.. we don't bother shooting competition and don't score. the only inconvenience is the stoppage. if the cartridges were that bad he'd probably just break them down. He bought a slab from auction so no shop to return to. Note.. position of blown primer which has jammed action. That is the spent fired case which suggests that the primer has been blown out the back, then rebounded to that position with an amount of force BEFORE the case has had time /travel to be ejected.

It's a really odd situation. The cartridges are great and the gun shot loads of them spraying the ejected cases all over the place. It isn't my gun but it shot well and strangely enough it was only some cartridges that did this. One primer that was blown out got into the bolt action area and jammed the whole lot solid. We had to strip the for end, the barell, the gas piston. The bolt was stuck firmly so I manualy jerked the action bar and suddenly a mangled primer fell out off the action. Reassembled it shot ok and ejected ok. I took a picture which shows a primer on top of the semi ejected case jammed between the case and the top of the action. Because this happens at super high spèd there is no way of knowing quite what is happening.

We were having an informal clay shoot and a mate was using 2x28 gauges. 1 was a Beretta O/U AND the other was an auto. When using the auto, the primers were dislodging from the case and generally jamming between the spent case and the top of the action. In one case we had to remove the barrel, the gas piston and linkage. A lot of wiggling and tapping of the action to get the mangled primer out of the action. Shooting recontinued. Never ever seen or heard of this ones. Bornagi cartridges.

There is no right or wrong with cartridges. If they go bang and the lead is put on the target the load will do the job. Get a light 12 and shoot light loads. A lot, lot cheaper. And a better shot column pattern.

Handy if you were near by. It's always a million miles away up north from here.

I wonder how many have been taken with the two guns. They still would.

Imagine the days in the field that this gun has seen. The group's of friends that have been out shooting on driven days. Even now it is still a tool that was designed to do a job and given the circumstances if the lead is put on the target it would still do that job.

I've passed the e-mail address in the PM on to my mate. These items seem to be pretty thin on the ground.

It's not for me. I posted for a good friend that I shoot with who is looking but he isn't a member of PW.

I don't think that anyone down south ever gets rid of anything. Whether it's guns or ammunition it always seems to be a million miles away up north.

SE. KENT. Have you got one or just inquisitive. ?

I need another cabinet. Although plod said that I'd already got far too many. I told him that you cant have too many. Guns.

Details.? What they like.? How much.? Edit.... I know that you are very reasonable with price. AND I know that everyone wants to get the best price for their item BUT the vast majority of items that ordinary PRIVATE SELLERS put up for sale on the forums are unrealistic regarding General market values. This is shown by the amount of items for sale ---- item views and the zero amount of bids on the items. I've got a 4 that I shoot well with and it has got fair/ good wood, but the action / metalwork is rough and I'd like to be able to combine a bitzer that I could still shoot with.