benelli montefeltro Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 there really is some **** talked about cartridge performance. the worst cartridges are as accurate as the best shooter. give the dnjs to a capable shot and then see what they are capable of. all in the bleedin mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@Ribchester Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I was shooting pigeon on Saturday with Eley HB Pigeon 32g 6 1/2. I had a load stuffed in my pocket and things were going ok. I reloaded quickly as the pigeon were coming in quickly and BOOM..... I wondered what had happened until I saw the offending orange cartridge on the grass next to me, a rogue D&J from when I had unfortunately bought a thousand a while back. I dont like them at all and find them a particularly "dirty" cartridge. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpshot Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 dont know what you are all talking about i use d & j's all the time when possible and never had a problem at all. as for being dirty so what!! dont you all clean your guns after you shoot any cartridge?? whats bein dirty got to do with doing the job? Do you ever read in the papers that soldiers moan about having a good or bad batch of ammo or that their rounds are too dirty. a bad workman ALWAYS blames his tools. being able to turn your hand and shoot anything with anything is called being skilled in your shooting. everyone else just wants it on a plate. make do with what you got and stop moaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 dont know what you are all talking about i use d & j's all the time when possible and never had a problem at all. as for being dirty so what!! dont you all clean your guns after you shoot any cartridge?? whats bein dirty got to do with doing the job?Do you ever read in the papers that soldiers moan about having a good or bad batch of ammo or that their rounds are too dirty. a bad workman ALWAYS blames his tools. being able to turn your hand and shoot anything with anything is called being skilled in your shooting. everyone else just wants it on a plate. make do with what you got and stop moaning A darn fine post. To many housewifey wimps go shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Nothing wrong with D&Js.......Shoot them at a dustbin at 40 yards and then ask yourself if you'd take its place. Looking up a barrel after firing is fine if you think there is a blockage, but to comment on 'dirt' in a barrel is a bit housewifey!!! You could say that about the cheapest of cheap cartridges They would have to be pretty **** to miss a stationary bin. D&J's for game shooting....no thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 You could say that about the cheapest of cheap cartridges They would have to be pretty **** to miss a stationary bin.D&J's for game shooting....no thank you It might be just cause I am drunk but I have never had a problem with D&J or any other shell. You will find that quite often any person that is complaining about cartridges is either unable to shoot or they should spend more time at the clay ground. I have shot a lot of pigeons and game with D&J's 7 1/2's and 6's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Naaah, they just arent my favourite.... I'd fancy my chances with lyalvale 3 inch .410 cartridges than those things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 i am usually a great beleiver in shoot with whatever your given or buy and concentrate on shooting the bird. I have used all sorts of cartridges and shot well with most, but with these D and Js i cannot hit a thing. I am not a bad shot, maybe they're not 4 me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 never had a problem with d+j's myself, i just buy whatevers in the shop (and usually you dont have a choice), all seems to do the same for me as for dirty guns, catch a grip lads, thats why they sell cleaning kits but if youre really worried about it, just buy a mossberg pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann boy Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 thay r **** had them once never again very dirty and one box i had fire 2 carts and thay left the wads in my barrel wich put me off them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Now, i dont claim to know much about shotguns, home loads and the size of your wifes wads, but you lot talk some tosh. Dirty Barrels? What did you think was going to come out of the cart? the love juice from an angel? sweet jesus man, put your marrigolds away and get your gun in the field. Once finished, clean the bloody thing. Dont moan about a bit of dirt!! (give me strength!) And as for no good? Look, when you pull the trigger, stuff comes out of the end very, very fast. If your not hitting things, dont blame the carts, take up knitting instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindeye Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 yea i have made the mistake using D&J . not the quickest and one dirty cartidge. thats why they are always on special . You need to be special to buy them !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Now, i dont claim to know much about shotguns, home loads and the size of your wifes wads, but you lot talk some tosh. Dirty Barrels? What did you think was going to come out of the cart? the love juice from an angel? sweet jesus man, put your marrigolds away and get your gun in the field. Once finished, clean the bloody thing. Dont moan about a bit of dirt!! (give me strength!) And as for no good? Look, when you pull the trigger, stuff comes out of the end very, very fast. If your not hitting things, dont blame the carts, take up knitting instead. Well said. I clean my shotgun after every outing so what is the probllem if there is a bit of dirt in the barrels. I have in the past blamed cartridges but thats after missing an easy shot , seriously if you guys can't hit go to the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Now, i dont claim to know much about shotguns, home loads and the size of your wifes wads, but you lot talk some tosh. Dirty Barrels? What did you think was going to come out of the cart? the love juice from an angel? sweet jesus man, put your marrigolds away and get your gun in the field. Once finished, clean the bloody thing. Dont moan about a bit of dirt!! (give me strength!) And as for no good? Look, when you pull the trigger, stuff comes out of the end very, very fast. If your not hitting things, dont blame the carts, take up knitting instead. MM, I love you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku Mike Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I use them all the time for the pigeons, Lumpy ( a bit ) Dirty yes ( i dont mind cleaning me gun ) Effective ( most certainly ) Give them to the likes of Mr George Digweed see how many pigeons keep flying by. Shooting is all a game of psychology. ie use a cartridge and get on well with it, ie hitting things lol, and its a dam fine cartridge, try a new cartridge and dont have a good day, they are c**p Same go's for chokes, just another mind trick, gives you something to blame when having a bad day lol Dont get me wrong im an ardent fan of gamebore, especially on the clays, but in all honesty i have had a good few straights at skeet with all sorts of cheaper carts, you just got to poke them in the right place lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 FOB standard 32's for me....Never tried D&J's....We sell them at work,I think there about the cheapest we do..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bangs Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Send them to me, I'll have em, Dirty carts don't bother me and I'll shoot with owt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 MM, I love you! back attcha baby FOB standard 32's for me....Never tried D&J's....We sell them at work,I think there about the cheapest we do..... Hope you dont work at BurgerKing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 D&Js are dirtier than a Turkish dockside hooker, kick like a rabid mule, but in fairness will kill well if put in the right place. When they were cheap and nasty, game on. Now they arent cheap but still nasty, ta but no ta. ZB Just how dirty would that be? I am going to Turkey on me hols this year and need to know if they are worth a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Moreover how does Mr Zapp know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 i find d@j carts ok, used a lot of them and they hit well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillStone Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 only ever used em once and with the third shot the plastic casing came away from the brass head. as it was in a mates s/a it jammed and i thought this was a tad poor of a cartridge, tbh i didnt miss the clays that we wer shootin at with either of the 3 shots but this put me off them. i know use lyalvale which are cheep and reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I had the misfortune to buy 500 D & J Fibre wadded clay cartridges and was very glad to see the back of them. The leading in my barrells was phenomenal - even after just 50 rounds. It took a ridiculous amount of rodding with a turk's head brush to get it out every time. I have never seen anything like it. I think on one occasion I even resorted to putting the cleaning rod in the chuck of my cordless drill - well lubricated with Parker Hale 009 - and used that very slowly and carefully. I normally use Young's 303. The first 6-10 inches ahead of the chamber were almost entirely covered in leading - in fact that might be the answer because by the time a 28g load made it out of the barrel it was probably 10g lighter ! I only ever use fibre wads for various reasons and am used to having to use the phosphor-bronze spiral brush on leading just in front of the chamber, but these were unbelievably bad. Never again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Stop moaning! 'Clean burning' can often lead to 'bore-washing' or erosion of metal. All shells should be dirty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 As someone must have said before; I wish my girl was as dirty as a D&J cart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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