Jega Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 As a follow on from the recent cases involving Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper) and the case around the re-arrest of John Venables( one of Jamie Bulgers killer's). How many of us think the death penalty should now be restored ?.For myself i think its time it was reintroduced given that where applicable, D.N.A. evidence is so compelling that little argument can be made for pleading innocence. Also those who argue the point of making terrorists into martyrs ,they are only martyrs to those that believe in their warped cause, the rest of us still think they are murdering scumbags. I firmly believe that some deterrant is better then no deterrant in capital cases,and the judicary should have the ultimate option available to them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Death is an easy way out. Keep em locked away and working their fingers to the bone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Death Penalty, when there is concrete proof that the person commited the crime (murder, that is) DNA is proof of this. Maybe hanging is not the right way (I think so though) but lethal injection, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Its wrong to kill people. Remember the 10 commandments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Death is an easy way out. Keep em locked away and working their fingers to the bone. this would be more acceptable. there is a prog on national geographic now showing the build up to 3 inmates execution. its just wrong. the only argument you ever hear for pro capital punishment is "what if it was your son/daughter..etc they killed". im sorry, but an eye for an eye is not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Would anybody like to watch one of their kids take the drop? Civilisation please, the death penalty is common in third world countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I have voted no even though I am actually in favour of capital punishment, my reasoning, as per my post on the Jamie Boulger thread, is that the only way we can be sure that someone is guilty is if they admit to the crime and plead guilty, by doing that, the sentence is more than likely to be commuted to a custodial one. Even if the accused is found guilty by a jury after pleading innocence, there is no way to be absolutely, unequivocably sure of thier guilt. 99.9% sure yes but 100% certainty is impossible. Therefore paradoxically, the ones we are certain of being guilty will be spared and those with doubt surrounding thier guilt will be killed, as far as I'm concerned, no level of doubt is acceptable, even .00001%.Whilst there is ANY doubt there should be no execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 an eye for an eye simplez why should we pay to keep them theres no place in society for pedofiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Remember the 10 commandments??? MY RRRRRS-did those 2 murdering scumbags remember that as they stoned little jamie to death? Dont fork about hanging them-throw them to an angry mob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william1 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 yes so we should for all peedo's and bring back peerpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Doesn't work as a deterent and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Although I have selected yes, I am sorta in 2 minds. I agree with it when (as Steve B says) there is 110% certainty, but if there is even a element of doubt I don't think it should be enforced. I know that DNA/Forensics etc is better advanced these days but look at how many innocent people in the past have been locked up for crimes they didn't commit, one example I can think of is the Guildford 4. Also how would a jury feel knowing that their judgement could lead to a man's death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'll say this. If the scumbag driver, who killed my 14 year old son, and his 14 year old friend, while drunk and banned 4 times, hadn't died at the scene, I could pull the switch, press the needle or whatever myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Would anybody like to watch one of their kids take the drop? Civilisation please, the death penalty is common in third world countries This is a tough one , me if one of my two stepped so far out of line that the weight of the law thought , letting 'em swing was the answer i'd have to go with it . I too would be thinking about taking a swing as well due to the fact i would have failed in my duty as a parent . On the flipside if someone harmed my two kids , they better hope the law gets to them before i do . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Would anybody like to watch one of their kids take the drop? Civilisation please, the death penalty is common in third world countriesthe other side to that coin is( god fobid)fi it was your son or daughter who had been murdered or violated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 yes so we should for all peedo's and bring back peerpoint Pierrepoint Doesn't work as a deterent and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. thats a brilliant saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Although I have selected yes, I am sorta in 2 minds. I agree with it when (as Steve B says) there is 110% certainty, but if there is even a element of doubt I don't think it should be enforced. I know that DNA/Forensics etc is better advanced these days but look at how many innocent people in the past have been locked up for crimes they didn't commit, one example I can think of is the Guildford 4. Also how would a jury feel knowing that their judgement could lead to a man's death? What makes you think they were innocent? It was an 'unsafe conviction' case not re opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 What makes you think they were innocent? It was an 'unsafe conviction' case not re opened. Ah come on man, it is obvious that they were bullied into making a confession. But that is another thread for another day, I was just using it as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Death is an easy way out. Keep em locked away and working their fingers to the bone. Hard labour would be a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Ah come on man, it is obvious that they were bullied into making a confession. But that is another thread for another day, I was just using it as an example. I dont disagree with that ollie, still a closed case though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I think that hard abour would be beter, especially if the labour was useful to members of society, and while in some instances i am for the death penalty i think that corpral punishment has more of a place in todays society particually to some stdents in schools, but again in isolated cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 This one has been done before. In fact I think I asked the question in the previous thread. How long before it gets heated, the name calling starts and this one gets the smack down ? EDIT : By the way, I voted YES. Hang them high and in public like the good old days. Make it a day out for people, provide seating and sell snacks. Encourage families to take their kids and tell them - "See that kids ? that's what happens to bad people". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I replied no, i personally don't believe in the death penatly, and i am pretty right wing. Too much room for human error in judging and jury's today! However i do believe in harsher deterents like life meaning life and no parole for reapeat sexual or voilent offenders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 much as I would love to see the death penalty for "beyond doubt cases" I don't trust either the judiciary or plod enough to rest easy with it, ask Stephan kisco if he supports the death penalty after doing many many years for a murder he was innocent of and fitted up for ? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 How long before it gets heated, the name calling starts and this one gets the smack down ? How long indeed. As long as the capital punishment, torture, mob justice and disfigurement of criminals doesnt stray into the capital punishment, torture, mob justice and disfigurement of criminals only this time called for by smelly brown folks and called sharia law, then I expect we will be fine ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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