Chard Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I cant find the excact figures but I think its near 100% of those convicted and then sentenced to death do not re offend ? Yes, I think you're close with that number, Digger Don't suppose any of us will ever agree on this subject It's like Henry D's link. It's all a matter of degrees. That guy was stoned to death for committing adultery in Somalia. We wouldn't have the death penalty for adultery and we wouldn't have a free-for-all for passers-by, three rocks for a fiver approach to it either. I suppose you could argue that it doesn't make any difference what method is used, but I don't see it as the same. Also, I can't help thinking that if someone murdered a family member of mine, I THINK I could throw a rock or two (easy to say I know). I think with me, the revenge element would be big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 all this political correctness etc is ruining our society. Really can't argue with that comment!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 i voted to bring it back, not for revenge, but to protect society. every situation is different, but someone who arms themselves and goes out to commit murder does not need counselling sessions and sympathy, they need taken out of the equation to protect the rest of us. vipa, as for humans being seperate from animals because we show compassion, you say that as if its a good thing. if someone attacks and molests a child, why do they deserve compassion? being human and showing compassion (and all the other tripe that gets bandied about) is one thing, but theres something wrong when a society is more worried about a criminals rights than it is about protecting itself from the criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Also, I can't help thinking that if someone murdered a family member of mine, I THINK I could throw a rock or two (easy to say I know). I think with me, the revenge element would be big. I think it was Gandhi who once said, an eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think it was Gandhi who once said, an eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind. KW and duke nukem who said "kill em all, let god sort it out" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieboy Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 instead of death penalty why not give them life and make the family pay for there upkeep if no one pays tough they get nothing bet the familys start and instil disipline again as they foot the bill for the wrong doin .or they can work for credits such as food and stuff if theres no known family then taxpayers dont have to foot the bill for the scum bags if they refuse to earn credits and no one pays for them (after fineing the familys heavily) then death penalty at least they have options . just a idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think it was Gandhi who once said, an eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind. KW I believe he also said, 'Hate the sin, love the sinner' Unfortunately having done just that in this country for far too long we're now having this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 vipa, as for humans being seperate from animals because we show compassion, you say that as if its a good thing. if someone attacks and molests a child, why do they deserve compassion? Didn't say they DESERVE compassion, I said that having the ability to show compassion is what makes us human Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 There have been a few comments that I agree with, but I have never felt that the death penalty was the right way forward. I won't say its the easy way out as I can't imagine the fear that someone would go through about to have their sentence carried out. But I would prefer to see such a person pay for their crimes with hard hard labour on bread and water. This then supports my concerns over wrongful sentence. Since you can't give life back to someone then its probably better not to take it in the first place afterall, isn't this the whole point. I know we have better ways to help prevent against wrongful conviction but I still have enough doubt in my mind to say no. I don't how much of a deterrent it would serve but I am sure that hard labour and the removal of all your rights would be far more of a deterrent. I certainly agree that we as a country are far to 'soft' on criminals. Brussels or not, its about time it was sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Funny only 10% of people who viewed voted, were the others don't knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Funny only 10% of people who viewed voted, were the others don't knows? Could be, I am a "dont know" to be honest. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 thats quite a liberal result for a PW vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oXo- Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) At least we might have some room in our prisons Might discourage more criminals too. Edited March 5, 2010 by -oXo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 There is no 'control' sample to compare the USA against so how can you conclude this? Things might be much _worse_ without the death penalty. That too might be sufficient deterrant to reduce the number of murders, but you'd probably find it contravenes their 'human rights'. Nial They have no human rights in my book. They forfeited their rights the day they took another human life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Funny only 10% of people who viewed voted, were the others don't knows? Not really. Lots of members have viewed this thread lots of times. I must have been in here for a nosey about 20 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oXo- Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 They have no human rights in my book. They forfeited their rights the day they took another human life. So what about the person who executes them? Where do they stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yes but with a caveat. 1st trial by jury to ascertain guilt. 2nd trial by judges, psychiatrists (spelling?) and other experts to assign punishment. If 100% certain of guilt then execution, no options. As previously said by others, terrorists will be automatically executed. Re-introduction of corporal punishment for hoolgans, vandals, etc.; certainly, they won't be such "big men" when their friends see them crying in public with their trousers round their ankles. But in Europe these people still have their "rights" thus it'll never happen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 So what about the person who executes them? Where do they stand? Usually just to the side of the trap door....................holding a big lever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 there is the death penalty still in use in this country for two crimes, Treason , in or out of was, and im not joking but settin fire to haystacks is still a hangable offence......... Setting fire to a navel dockyard and high treason still a capitol offence in this country . There is a fully functional execution chamber in a well known London prison . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Setting fire to a navel dockyard Is that torching a beaver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I f we live in a country that has capitol punishment then we must accept the fact that at some time an innocent person could be executed . I lived for many years in this country whilst we had capitol punishment as a punishment for murder . It never botherd me at all that I may be innocently accused and convicted of murder . I am sure that nowadays it would be much harder to convict an innocent person of a crime that they did not committ . I can assure you that capitol punishment was a detterent on the whole for murder and the criminal classes feared being taken from this court to a place of legal execution where you will hung by the neck untill dead . May god have mercy on your soul . Me , I am all for bringing back hanging . Any how being a fully trained hang mans assistant I could proberbly get a little bit of retirement work . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 yes bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I've mellowed in my old(er) age. I voted no. But life should mean life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I've mellowed in my old(er) age. I voted no. But life should mean life AVB. all life sentences do mean life . The get out of jail card is the parole board . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oXo- Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Usually just to the side of the trap door....................holding a big lever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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