kdubya Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 sacked or wrist slapped? doyles the pair of them. KW http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/C...VIII_Sports_Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 so they stole the kids car joyrided it and totalled it sounds like a jailing offence to me not just a ban from driving duties.Wonder whos going to foot the bill for that, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well funny. To be 23 and get insurance on that you must be: 1. a lottery winner 2. a footballer 3. a drug dealer Mind you, it was up North. If you have 50 dole books in different names then anything is achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 If that doesn't lead to a dangerous driving conviction and sacking then I'm a fiddlers uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well funny. To be 23 and get insurance on that you must be: Does not say he was the owner just the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well funny. To be 23 and get insurance on that you must be: 1. a lottery winner 2. a footballer 3. a drug dealer Mind you, it was up North. If you have 50 dole books in different names then anything is achievable. lad I work with he is 22 had a lotus Elise exige he paid his insurance by instalments and worked OT to cover the cost ( over 2 K) he is now planning to get a lambo and I don't doubt he will, aye its grim up north but grimmer down south. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Thats not a write off! A few tubs of P38 and a 2lb club hammer will sort that out... I would imagine thats a severe botty spanking for the rozzers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well funny. To be 23 and get insurance on that you must be: 1. a lottery winner 2. a footballer 3. a drug dealer Mind you, it was up North. If you have 50 dole books in different names then anything is achievable. A mate of mine had an Evo FQ330 at 23, his insurance was about £8k a year TPF&T. He was an IT Contractor back in the silly money days, no mortgage etc, but your average 23 year old not a chance. Best bet is mummy and daddy are minted as Hale is a very upmarket area. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Its Hale Barns......... there is a good chance that he is a footballer or the son of ritch parents...... Houses in that area can go for £1 m plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 if we're honest most of us would have given it a little beans under the circumstances, however unless there is a seriously good excuse I can't see them keeping their jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Oh come on - their coppers same as council workers - you can be **** at job and promoted out of the way if you make a balls up.- seen it seen it and been on end of it - jeez come on into the real world -- If on the other hand you were in private sector that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 oh dear here is another one getting the sack shortly ( quite right to) big question is why has it taken two years to get this sorted, another prime example of "to serve and protect" KW http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11190561 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 oh dear here is another one getting the sack shortly ( quite right to) big question is why has it taken two years to get this sorted, another prime example of "to serve and protect" KW http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11190561 Why just be sacked? Surely this should go to court as assult. Then he can be sacked, followed by a jail sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agjm Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Why just be sacked? Surely this should go to court as assult. Then he can be sacked, followed by a jail sentence. Further down the article it says it is going to court. Andrews, who has been suspended on full pay since his conviction, is due to be sentenced for the assault at Oxford Magistrates' Court on Tuesday. He is also to face a police misconduct hearing. Why on full pay is the question I would be asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Saw that on the news. Very nasty indeed. The CCTV captures the flow of blood from the woman's face hitting the floor in the cell and there's a fair bit of it. No need for that at all. He looks about 6' and 15 stone and her about 5' 2" and 8 stone. And of course he was the sergeant i.e. promoted up and in charge of the custody suite. Nice. As above, no idea why this would take 2 years to get to this point or why he has been suspended on full pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 so they stole the kids car joyrided it and totalled itsounds like a jailing offence to me not just a ban from driving duties.Wonder whos going to foot the bill for that, could be the tax payers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 You have got to be a complete idiot to crash either EVO OR Scooby I have found even though my scooby is slower than my M5 its faster point to point and to make the scooby break loose is very hard where the M5 spins in 4th at 100mph in the wet. Crumpets the EVO only has 270 bhp not really all that much IMO. Very silly boys having said that the car is covered by the police forces insurance . Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Suspended on full pay is most likely due to their contract. Innocent until proven guilty and all that means that until somebody is found guilty and formally dismissed then you cannot stop paying them while they are still employed. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamJones Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 oh dear here is another one getting the sack shortly ( quite right to) big question is why has it taken two years to get this sorted, another prime example of "to serve and protect" KW http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11190561 I read about that today. I can't help but feel that there's a lot more to this than meets the eye. As she refused to be breath tested she may have been drunk and perhaps physically abusive to the police officer before entering the station. I'm in no way saying that what he did was excusable (it was absolutely awful), I just think that he probably didn't mean to hurt her like that and she probably provoked him. If you look at how she fell as well, she could have put her arms down to stop herself face-planting the floor, but maybe she was absolutely hammered. I dunno, just my 2c! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I read about that today. I can't help but feel that there's a lot more to this than meets the eye. As she refused to be breath tested she may have been drunk and perhaps physically abusive to the police officer before entering the station. I'm in no way saying that what he did was excusable (it was absolutely awful), I just think that he probably didn't mean to hurt her like that and she probably provoked him. If you look at how she fell as well, she could have put her arms down to stop herself face-planting the floor, but maybe she was absolutely hammered. I dunno, just my 2c! she never got done for failing to take a breath test? she apparently was not drunk, she was emotional yes and probably more than a little uncooperative but to be swept off your feet by a 6ft odd cop then thrown to the ground and ( the only thing hammered was her head) have your face bashed into the ground is not on, simple as,note also he HAS already been found guilty of assault so no doubt all the bleeding heart excuses will have been put forward to try and defend yet another uniformed thug,seemingly to no avail this time, lets see what the sentence is. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Ms Somerville had been detained for failing to provide a sample for a breath test from that link you posted kdubya, sounds like shed been difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Ms Somerville had been detained for failing to provide a sample for a breath test from that link you posted kdubya, sounds like shed been difficult funny they never did her for it?perhaps to much assumption made after finding her asleep in a car its a bit like the guy charged for falling asleep at a football match ( mind it was the smoggies) understandable but was it illegal? either way whether ****** spitting or just plain horrible they had a duty of care to this woman, a duty so readily omitted, same class as delroy smelly perhaps? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) she refused to co-operate and didnt give a breath sample, i doubt the conversation went "can we have a breath sample?", "eh, no you cant, sorry", "oh ok then come to the station", "righto, off we go!" im sure there was a bit more aggro in there than that! now whether as a drunk driver/in charge of vehicle who refused to co-operate with the police she deserved to have her face smashed into the floor is debateable, i know a couple of people who have had family killed by drunk drivers who would argue that its nothing close to what she deserves, but the cop broke the law and he got done for it, seemples. i do have to wonder how much crime would go down if people thought they were going to get a hiding rather than get a slap on the wrist and half an hours community service from some liberal judge actually no, i dont have to wonder, 10 years ago there was very very little crime or anti social behaviour in my town. now the place is full to the brim of druggies, burglar's, travellers, etc. simple reason? the guys with balaclava's and baseball bats kept the place in order, now theyre all retired! ps and she possibly wasnt done because the police tried to cover it up "you let it drop and we wont charge you" sort of thing, but she probably saw pound sisgns floating in front of her eyes after the swelling went down :good: Edited September 6, 2010 by Ozzy Fudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 she refused to co-operate and didnt give a breath sample, i doubt the conversation went "can we have a breath sample?", "eh, no you cant, sorry", "oh ok then come to the station", "righto, off we go!" im sure there was a bit more aggro in there than that! now whether as a drunk driver/in charge of vehicle who refused to co-operate with the police she deserved to have her face smashed into the floor is debateable, i know a couple of people who have had family killed by drunk drivers who would argue that its nothing close to what she deserves, but the cop broke the law and he got done for it, seemples. i do have to wonder how much crime would go down if people thought they were going to get a hiding rather than get a slap on the wrist and half an hours community service from some liberal judge actually no, i dont have to wonder, 10 years ago there was very very little crime or anti social behaviour in my town. now the place is full to the brim of druggies, burglar's, travellers, etc. simple reason? the guys with balaclava's and baseball bats kept the place in order, now theyre all retired! ps and she possibly wasnt done because the police tried to cover it up "you let it drop and we wont charge you" sort of thing, but she probably saw pound sisgns floating in front of her eyes after the swelling went down :good: What a load of old poop. The old "there must be more to this" tripe to defend the indefensible. Did you watch the CCTV? What do *the facts* say? Oh, yeah, don't worry about those getting in the way eh? Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 the odd thing is the cctv shows her being dragged towards the cell, now if she wasn't drunk tiredness doesn't make you do that. Police deal with drunk obstructive people most evenings so I can half see why you'd drag someone about but that doesn't make it right. The simple thing is had it been Mungler or I we wouldn't have refused a test, had we failed it would have walked to the cells not needing help so something was up. I had a friend who died in custody in Stevenage police station, he was taken in for being drunk and commiting arson however it was a mentall illness problem so there are possible reasons. My inkling is it would be nice to know the copper before saying it was completely because he felt like stoving her face in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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