Talks with the FEO

[henry d]

Just finished talking with the FEO as my tickets are due soon and I had a torrid time last time with him insisting on me keeping shotgun ammo in a lockable container instead of a lockable room with no window and him getting huffy about wanting to use the 6.5 for fox as well as deer as I already had fox on the triple.

This time was soooooo different, I had all guns in the front room (`cos we aint posh enough to have a lounge lol) ready for him and the kettle on the boil, the dog went ballistic when he arrived, especially when I set her off again after the first lot of barking subsided and I locked her in the kitchen.

Good chat about vermin and modular moderators and he hinted I should get my backside in gear if I didn`t want to lose my variation from last time :blink: I hear what you are saying, cheers !

 

Seemed pleased to hear I have more ground to shoot on !

 

Even took a note of me wanting to increase my allowance of fullbore ammo.

 

Just over 30 minutes and jobs a good`un, he even gave me my old cert back so I could get the mod situation sorted quick :look:

 

So have you any good news stories from your renewals, rather than the same old stories of problems cos you haven`t used enough ammo/lost ground so we will not be renewing etc. etc. ?

[al4x]

was he a new FEO to start with Henry?

 

We had similar and once he had a few years under his belt seemed to relax and stop being difficult. I've got my renewal in at the moment so fingers crossed it stays like that!

[MC]

I have nothing but praise for my FEO, he is an old school shooting man and as long as you have the land or a good reason then there is no problem. I have increased all my ammo allowances to far more than I would ever hold or buy and never had any problems with him clearing land (when he had to) or getting my FAC opened up.

 

I truly believe that 90% of the horror stories you hear are because someone is trying it on and trying to get something they don't really need or have a proper use for.

 

You see it time and time again on here with people asking for a good reason to get a .XXX rifle etc. I believe that if you have to ask on here for a reason then you don't need the rifle.

[wymberley]

Hi,

Time flies, doing mine again now, what! already?

Problem is, I've just twigged that this could well be my penultimate time. Yep, time flies!

Cheers

[Frenchieboy]

Like MC I can not speak highly enough about my FEO (Simon Vann) he really is a top bloke! I was a little aprehensive at first as I had not met him before but i certainly need not have been the slightest bit worried! I spent half of yesterday afternoon with him doing a few land checks and he left me feeling at ease right from the word go! We even spent some of the time talking about our upbringing (Which was quite similar) and how we feel priveledged to have had such opportunities as youngsters brought up in the country. At the end of our time together we spent some time talking about the shooting plans I have for the future and he was good enough to offer me some really sound advice on things that I had not thought about.

 

Top Man Simon - Thanks, you are a credit to the Lancashire Constabulary! :blink: :look:

[steve_b_wales]

I too, have nothing but praise for my FEO (South Wales Police) He is a very friendly guy, who is helpful in every way. He shows an interest in shooting. I can phone him on his mobile anytime for advice.

He contacted me recently to arrange a visit because my ticket was due for renewal, and even asked if I still had my Jack Russell bitch, Cas. the last time I saw him was five years ago.

Sadly, he is due to retire next year, I've been told. I hope his successor will be as friendly.

[henry d]

was he a new FEO to start with Henry?

 

We had similar and once he had a few years under his belt seemed to relax and stop being difficult. I've got my renewal in at the moment so fingers crossed it stays like that!

 

Yes he was the last time, good point :blink:

[Dunkield]

I agree, from my experience the longer they have been in the job the better, the newbs are the ones to wacth out for.

I have never had any bother, in fact they have been very good, but the newer one of the two was a bit keen at first but luckily he seems to have got over that :blink:

[al4x]

when they are green and going from what they've been taught and the "rule book" they can be a nightmare, I reckon they get slowly educated by shooting people the more they do so generally get better. Of course there are the exceptions to the rule but mine is great. Have to say when he was last out with my house in pre renovation state he just looked at the holes in windows and poor security then shook the cabinet and said you've a big job on here I'll look forward to coming back when its done and that was it!

[kent]

Like MC I can not speak highly enough about my FEO (Simon Vann) he really is a top bloke! I was a little aprehensive at first as I had not met him before but i certainly need not have been the slightest bit worried! I spent half of yesterday afternoon with him doing a few land checks and he left me feeling at ease right from the word go! We even spent some of the time talking about our upbringing (Which was quite similar) and how we feel priveledged to have had such opportunities as youngsters brought up in the country. At the end of our time together we spent some time talking about the shooting plans I have for the future and he was good enough to offer me some really sound advice on things that I had not thought about.

 

Top Man Simon - Thanks, you are a credit to the Lancashire Constabulary!

 

Yeah, top bloke i agree. However i now have a different one, re-inspected my safe recently (adviced me to get an alarm perhaps) our nearest neigbour is 1/2 mile away and the police 1/2 hr and normally they can't find us anyway- told her to forget it ! Then complained strongly i had a few bb's on the shelf of my shotgun safe with the guns and i stated i might need them quick as we had experianced fox problems here and it was not a legal requirement to even lock them up, she agreed with the law side of things and was very satisfied when i put them in the unlocked drawer at the side of the safe, well thats sorted then!

 

Could my new FEO ***** someone competancy? i think not personally, could they ***** land? You gotta be kidding now! are they the person that does? yep! My thoughts on the firearms licencing review? GET COMPETANT PERSONS INVOLVED WITH LICENCING, EXPERIANCED IN WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING BEFORE THEY ARE GIVEN THE JOB. I mean good grief what next are the local council building control dept about to promote the cleaner to building inspector or the DVLA appiont a non driver to examiner? How many retired or semi retired experianced shooters out there are there who can tell a nut from a genuine shooter better than most and realise a 22-250 is not going to be dangerous to use if a .222 is safe on the shot :look:

[henry d]

......Could my new FEO ***** someone competancy? i think not personally, could they ***** land? You gotta be kidding now! .......

 

Interesting, as we were talking about shooting winged vermin with rifles and he suggested a .17hmr or the .22 as more suitable until I mentioned wind drift and loopy trajectories and the ability of the subs to ricochet off the slightest thing, he soon got what I meant :look:

[Bazooka Joe]

Interesting, as we were talking about shooting winged vermin with rifles and he suggested a .17hmr or the .22 as more suitable until I mentioned wind drift and loopy trajectories and the ability of the subs to ricochet off the slightest thing, he soon got what I meant

 

 

Tell him to phone Durham H, For some reason they cannot grasp that bit :look:

 

Apparently the rifles are to Powerful

 

ATB,

 

BJ

[Mungler]

My FEO has been top drawer as well and the licensing people at HQ have always been super quick dealing with variations and moving paperwork around.

 

Mind you, I have always found that if you are nice then people normally respond in a similar fashion. When I read some of the FEO horror stories I often wonder if it's a case of awkward was met with awkward.

 

Anyone see the traffic cops program last night with the cyclist from Brighton who had no lights (at night), ran a red light and then wouldn't stop for the police because he thought they should have something better to do and that he was being hassled? That bloke was a total tool from start to finish and what would have been a ticking off for him ended up with him in Court and wearing about £1k in fines and costs. He was a tool and got everything he asked for and yet it could have been so different for him if he wasn't.

[grasshopper]

Tell him to phone Durham H, For some reason they cannot grasp that bit :look:

 

Apparently the rifles are to Powerful

 

ATB,

 

BJ

 

 

Got to agree,the FEO is not the problem for us in Durham.

 

He understands when you put your point across,and puts your requests forward...then the licencing branch takes over and that`s when the problems start

[al4x]

My FEO has been top drawer as well and the licensing people at HQ have always been super quick dealing with variations and moving paperwork around.

 

Mind you, I have always found that if you are nice then people normally respond in a similar fashion. When I read some of the FEO horror stories I often wonder if it's a case of awkward was met with awkward.

 

Anyone see the traffic cops program last night with the cyclist from Brighton who had no lights (at night), ran a red light and then wouldn't stop for the police because he thought they should have something better to do and that he was being hassled? That bloke was a total tool from start to finish and what would have been a ticking off for him ended up with him in Court and wearing about £1k in fines and costs. He was a tool and got everything he asked for and yet it could have been so different for him if he wasn't.

 

 

top draw programme last night, laughed my socks off at that tool. Seemed like the courts were being pretty reasonable the guy with the flip up plate on his bike acting a tool got sent down for it :look:

[HDAV]

I too, have nothing but praise for my FEO (South Wales Police)

 

Sadly, he is due to retire next year, I've been told. I hope his successor will be as friendly.

Me too, having met one and spoken to 2 or 3 as well as the office staff they all seem very good, hope its not Malcolm who is retiring, not that he doesn't deserve it.

[Canis]

My FEO has been top drawer as well and the licensing people at HQ have always been super quick dealing with variations and moving paperwork around.

 

Mind you, I have always found that if you are nice then people normally respond in a similar fashion. When I read some of the FEO horror stories I often wonder if it's a case of awkward was met with awkward.

 

Anyone see the traffic cops program last night with the cyclist from Brighton who had no lights (at night), ran a red light and then wouldn't stop for the police because he thought they should have something better to do and that he was being hassled? That bloke was a total tool from start to finish and what would have been a ticking off for him ended up with him in Court and wearing about £1k in fines and costs. He was a tool and got everything he asked for and yet it could have been so different for him if he wasn't.

 

another spot on Mungler observation.

 

BTW

I thought every cyclist in Brighton rode like a lemming with a deathwish ! But ,its ok!"- they are protected from any possibility of injury or prossecution under the road traffic act because they are being Green. :look:

[Raja Clavata]

I am quite sure you would have different views on your FEO if you lived in the NE region of the Met Police licensing area.

[Mungler]

I am quite sure you would have different views on your FEO if you lived in the NE region of the Met Police licensing area.

 

Fortunately I don't <que high pitched giggle like a girl>

 

Did I mention my FEO gave me more on my first application that you have squeezed out of them even with a DSC1 under your belt?

 

You want to get yourself moved to County of milk and honey (God's own County)

Edited October 8, 2010 by Mungler

[Raja Clavata]

Yes you HAVE mentioned it - at least once by text message - several times on here and about the same number of times face to face

 

Congrats on passing DSC1, you schmidt

Edited October 8, 2010 by Raja Clavata

[groach1234]

I have had 3 different FEOs over the past 2 years or so in North Yorkshire and all have been fine. I believe it was Linda Hymer who granted my SGC when i was 16 and she was very reasonable about it all just asking a few basic safety questions and she was away. Then Tony Allerton for the initial grant of my FAC really nice guy very helpful and gave me what i wanted in a .17hmr and .22lr open and said if i wanted a .22 centrefire i could probably get one but as i was after something a little bigger i waited 8 months and then i met chris pearce who was equally as nice a chap. He only asked if i had experience with the calibers i was after and as i had granted them both, both open (6.5x55 and .223) with the 6.5x55 for fox and deer, what more could you want from and FEO?

 

George

[kdubya]

My FEO has been top drawer as well and the licensing people at HQ have always been super quick dealing with variations and moving paperwork around.

 

Mind you, I have always found that if you are nice then people normally respond in a similar fashion. When I read some of the FEO horror stories I often wonder if it's a case of awkward was met with awkward.

 

Anyone see the traffic cops program last night with the cyclist from Brighton who had no lights (at night), ran a red light and then wouldn't stop for the police because he thought they should have something better to do and that he was being hassled? That bloke was a total tool from start to finish and what would have been a ticking off for him ended up with him in Court and wearing about £1k in fines and costs. He was a tool and got everything he asked for and yet it could have been so different for him if he wasn't.

 

 

yeah saw that queer thing was if you give the police the wrong name ie lie about your identity have no license to drive and no insurance you only get a £40 fine and 6 points oh yes silly me she was black I digress, back to the point whats the bit about locking shotgun ammo away?

 

KW