death from below Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 you are indeed correct MC just the PW unwashed don't usually look at the small print after the headline I'm very disappointed al4x - no anti-jock slant or any kind of mirth in your reply - well, I suppose the 'unwashed' tag is a bit funny but you must try harder - I look forward to your responses for the **** take element you usually apply. Come come boy, where's the mirth. :look: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Does this mean that drink is going up in price? I thought it just meant there was a minimum cost (such as 38p for a can of lager) I usually drink real ales that are usually around £1.80 - £2.00 a bottle. So they are above the minimum cost anyway. Also if you really look into the supermarket offers they are not giving anything away either. The 3 for £20 offers they have are usually smaller bottles or less cans in a case than they usually is. A fair point. I suppose they will find a way of massaging the prices up a bit for everything and blaming the government for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I'm very disappointed al4x - no anti-jock slant or any kind of mirth in your reply - well, I suppose the 'unwashed' tag is a bit funny but you must try harder - I look forward to your responses for the **** take element you usually apply. Come come boy, where's the mirth. :look: :blink: back to the first page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I blame the Govenment I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 and its only England and Wales......... who drinks the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 and its only England and Wales......... who drinks the most Essex Hard Men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I already know people who get ****** on pills and snort various 'plant fertilisers' because its that much cheaper than getting drunk and this will only force more to do the same. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) It doesn`t just stop there, as adults should also think about the cultural habits they are passing on to children. In the 70`s my parents didn`t have enough spare cash to drink every evening, either at home or in the pub, they went out at the weekend and had a drink then and that was the culture that I started out with. absolute tosh in my fathers time ALL the men went out seven days of the week IE in from work usually 12 hours, washed, tea and out,back in for 11 then bed,the women stayed in or slipped to the snug for an hour, now I do like a drink, not cans but bitter at a pub, not every day sometimes not even once a week so I never followed my "culture" did I, yet it would seem because some (not all)and of course the likes of you with your anal stereo typing would have me paying more for a pleasure I have and one that I work dammed hard for, if say tesco want to sell me a bottle of whisky as promotion to get me in the store why the hell should I be made to pay more than I should just because some nerd thinks its wrong to sell cheap booze? Oh and how many of the so called experts and moral high ground claimants who speak of the demon drink and encourage the govt to rip the harrises out of us even further, play the lets legalise drug cards,two faced *****, this country is now filled with airy fairy cotton wool wonders who would simply seek to stop everyone and anyone enjoying life, miserables pillocks. KW Edited January 18, 2011 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Here's an interesting article about how drinking culture has changed for youngsters..... http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mary-ann-sieghart/mary-ann-sieghart-no-wonder-theyve-got-a-drink-problem-2186216.html Certainly rings true in my case. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Here's an interesting article about how drinking culture has changed for youngsters..... http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mary-ann-sieghart/mary-ann-sieghart-no-wonder-theyve-got-a-drink-problem-2186216.html Certainly rings true in my case. Nial. There is a lot of sense in that article. I know I mainly started drinking in quiet country pubs around a table with a friend or two before we had attained 'the age'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Here in Scotland the police hand out street fines of £80 to drunks They do that here too, but only to those who've had one too many on a Friday night. If you've got a real drink or drug problem we give them somewhere to go and get out of their faces............ http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/8797133.Colchester_Council_agrees_to_set_up____wet_zone____for_town___s_boozers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I cant really see what difference this piece of legislation is going to make,firstly as many posters on here have already stated those who want to drink to excess will by hook or by crook find the funds to do so.Next as i understand it the minimum price is going to be around 38p for a can of weak lager ,fair enough but the stuff that the problem drinkers favour costs about twice this and maybe more ,so what impact is this price legislation going to have ? If the only drink price its going to impact on is the very bottom end of the market then i think it misses the point altogether as the stronger lagers, ciders, shots,and alcopops would seem to be the main areas of concern and they all cost way more then the proposed lower limit price so the legislation is voided before it starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I already know people who get ****** on pills and snort various 'plant fertilisers' because its that much cheaper than getting drunk and this will only force more to do the same. George Oh no!! So plant fertilizer will be going up in price too. Is there no end to these shameful excuses each successive Government uses to tax us more. I predict that in a few years we won't be paid a wage, but all our earnings will go to the Government, who will give us a food allowance then keep the rest, or something like. You mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I just whether some of the posters have actually read what the proposed changes are. According to BBC the new minimum prices are: 440ml can of lager 38p 1 litre cider 40p 750ml bottle wine £2.03 700ml whisky £8.00 1 litre vodka £10.71 (note these will be mimimum prices, not price rises and not extra tax etc) Whilst it might not have any affect on cutting out problem drinking, I don't think it is going to have any noticebale effect on moderate drinkers either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 This legislation won't change anything except the stop retailers selling booze at a loss to get punters into the shops. It's only there so that they can, over a period of time, slowly increase the limit, it's a way of getting it on the statute books without annoying the drinks manufactures, pubs and offies. Give it a year and the limits will start to rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I just whether some of the posters have actually read what the proposed changes are. According to BBC the new minimum prices are: 440ml can of lager 38p 1 litre cider 40p 750ml bottle wine £2.03 700ml whisky £8.00 1 litre vodka £10.71 (note these will be mimimum prices, not price rises and not extra tax etc) Whilst it might not have any affect on cutting out problem drinking, I don't think it is going to have any noticebale effect on moderate drinkers either. so the prices at my work wont really be going up much as the fav is the cider at £1.32 for 2 litres..already above the min price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 absolute tosh in my fathers time ALL the men went out seven days of the week IE in from work usually 12 hours, washed, tea and out,back in for 11 then bed,the women stayed in or slipped to the snug for an hour, now I do like a drink, not cans but bitter at a pub, not every day sometimes not even once a week so I never followed my "culture" did I, yet it would seem because some (not all)and of course the likes of you with your anal stereo typing would have me paying more for a pleasure I have and one that I work dammed hard for, if say tesco want to sell me a bottle of whisky as promotion to get me in the store why the hell should I be made to pay more than I should just because some nerd thinks its wrong to sell cheap booze? Oh and how many of the so called experts and moral high ground claimants who speak of the demon drink and encourage the govt to rip the harrises out of us even further, play the lets legalise drug cards,two faced *****, this country is now filled with airy fairy cotton wool wonders who would simply seek to stop everyone and anyone enjoying life, miserables pillocks. KW ......and pray do tell, oh font of wisdom, how do we tackle out of control excessive drinking ? Clip round the ear, military service..... we aren`t a million miles from Hogarth`s Gin lane IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 ......and pray do tell, oh font of wisdom, how do we tackle out of control excessive drinking ? Clip round the ear, military service..... we aren`t a million miles from Hogarth`s Gin lane IMHO simple reduce opening hours of the friday and sat night circuit pubs, you know them the ones who are shut most of the week but promote rapid drinking 2 nights of the week,in order to make their money, allow local authoritues to say no to any proposed opening of new licensed premises "on the circuit" at the moment if the say no it gets overruled and it costs the authority money so they simply say ok? but most of all get parents to actually (god forbid) control and care for their kids, I have brought up seven, the youngest 16.5 and no she has NEVER had a drop accross her lips, when she is 18 she can try it, but as all the rest are just about tee total I dont think she ever will,( and there is always booze in the house available)moral of the story is bring your kids up right, get them to understand excess and have respect for others, then we would not have the excuse to put a bottle of whisky up in price by 8 quid( that wil stop bingeing eh!) just because some lazy idle non caring parent does not give a jack **** what their kids are up to. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 any dogooding butting in by the government always has the opposite effect. The only thing it ever does is put more money in their coffers. its correct that stricter liscensing laws dont work and if anything forces people to drink more. One of the problems in this country is how naff a place it is to live in, nothing to do everything is expensive **** weather communist government oppresing the people im not supprised people want to drink themselves to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 This legislation won't change anything except the stop retailers selling booze at a loss to get punters into the shops. It's only there so that they can, over a period of time, slowly increase the limit, it's a way of getting it on the statute books without annoying the drinks manufactures, pubs and offies. Give it a year and the limits will start to rise. Absolutely right, the devil is on the detail here, it's not a minimum price per se, the proposed law suggests that the alcohol cannot be sold for less than the value of the duty on it, so as succesive budgets roll past, so the value of the duty will rise and therefore so will the lowest price it can be sold for. As it is, most of the major supermarkets agree that below cost selling of alcohol doesnt help, and cheap beer promotions dont reward loyal customers, but do reward the corner shop owner who ends being able to stock up from one of the big 4 cheaper than he can from his wholesaler/supplier. As a result, most of the big 4 are working on promo mechanics that only reward the loyalty of regular customers, AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 its got nothing to do with public health just like petrol tax has nothing to do with saving the planet. The people who can make the most impact are not targeted i.e Chinese on emmisions and the Jocks on beer Its a stich up yet again nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 and the Jocks on beer We need cheap beer and Buckfast to wash down all the pies and chips we eat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officerdibble777 Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 We need cheap beer and Buckfast to wash down all the pies and chips we eat did you see the guy on you tube do a bottle in a few seconds ? it's the devils **** don't drink it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 £10.87 for 1ltr of vodka !!!!! I wish. I must start to drink petrol, obviously a bargain. Does petrol have the same effect??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 You cant blame the kids, you got to look at home first !!. When i was a kid my dad work for a brewery so we had beer in the house all the time, so it was no big thing. My mate on the other hand never had drink in there houses, so they were like bees round a honey pot when they came to mine. Yes i do like a drink or two but i really dont think that making it £10 a pint would stop people buying it. We need to change the way that we drink. It needs to be made socialy unacceptable to get totally trolled when you are out with your mates( Yes we have all dun it but not every weekend). It's like all things just making you dig deeper into your pocket wont stop it, it just a way of making more money out of the working man!!! I am not sure how to fix things becouse you look at it, the kids think a good night is one or two lines of coke (£40-80) 10 pints(£35+), a viagra(£25) becouse they cant get it up and £10 for a taxi home. Is this a good night out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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