Teacher Training days

[bruno22rf]

For all of you out there who have had to arrange extra child care today because of teacher training days let me just assure you that these extra days are essential to your childs education.Our teachers,for example,are all going to a church to learn meditation/relaxation techniques to help them cope with the stress involved in the teaching world-the course concludes with a 3 hour quiet period where each teacher has to sit alone in the grounds of the church and consider the path that their lives are taking.This course,by the way,is being led by a teacher who has just returned to work after 18 months sick leave suffering from a stress related condition.Just in case the sceptical amongst you still feel that these days are just a "jolly" let me tell you that last teacher training day consisted of an 8 hour course entitled "an introduction to modern dancing"-who can fail to see the benefits that our children are enjoying?

[Good shot?]

For all of you out there who have had to arrange extra child care today because of teacher training days let me just assure you that these extra days are essential to your childs education.Our teachers,for example,are all going to a church to learn meditation/relaxation techniques to help them cope with the stress involved in the teaching world-the course concludes with a 3 hour quiet period where each teacher has to sit alone in the grounds of the church and consider the path that their lives are taking.This course,by the way,is being led by a teacher who has just returned to work after 18 months sick leave suffering from a stress related condition.Just in case the sceptical amongst you still feel that these days are just a "jolly" let me tell you that last teacher training day consisted of an 8 hour course entitled "an introduction to modern dancing"-who can fail to see the benefits that our children are enjoying?

 

Obviously much needed then...

[CZ550Kevlar]

My daughter has a teacher training day on 4th July, goodness knows what that will be for but if past days are anything to go by they are probably off to alton towers for the day or something.

[Alpha Mule]

The bit that boils my pee, is that they can't have them during the holidays, oh no, we need to take yet another day off.

[DSPUK]

Instead of counting teachers days off - would it be easier and quicker to count days On? -- Another thing that might help is day's off should be unpaid leave.

As regards 18 month's on sick she should have been sacked as totally unsuitable for the job. -- Get a job in the real world and then see about stress - they don't know the meaning of the word.

 

Dave

[.philmypower.]

Im not a massive fan the wifes a teacher and it just means another day with her at home finding me jobs that need doing around the house

[shaun4860]

My daughter has a teacher training day on 4th July, goodness knows what that will be for but if past days are anything to go by they are probably off to alton towers for the day or something.

 

 

They have to train for the American day of independance silly....thought everyone knew that....

 

*looks for markm's reply*

 

shaun

[Bleeh]

Become a teacher? then you'll have lots of holiday too!

Edited June 6, 2011 by Bleeh

[CZ550Kevlar]

They have to train for the American day of independance silly....thought everyone knew that....

 

*looks for markm's reply*

 

shaun

 

Trouble is the 4th of July is my Birthday, don`t get me wrong i love my daughter to death but i like going clay shooting on my birthday for an hour or so then coming home and going out and having a meal with the wife and having some peace and quiet, all that is now gone. The last teacher training day was Feb 14th, it`s a damn conspiracy.

[Browning GTS]

For all of you out there who have had to arrange extra child care today because of teacher training days let me just assure you that these extra days are essential to your childs education.Our teachers,for example,are all going to a church to learn meditation/relaxation techniques to help them cope with the stress involved in the teaching world-the course concludes with a 3 hour quiet period where each teacher has to sit alone in the grounds of the church and consider the path that their lives are taking.This course,by the way,is being led by a teacher who has just returned to work after 18 months sick leave suffering from a stress related condition.Just in case the sceptical amongst you still feel that these days are just a "jolly" let me tell you that last teacher training day consisted of an 8 hour course entitled "an introduction to modern dancing"-who can fail to see the benefits that our children are enjoying?

 

The 3 hour quiet period is needed to think of all the places they are going to visit during all the holidays they get.

[markm]

So how do you know the content of the teacher training day?

 

And we (at my school) often have twilight sessions 4 x 2 hours then get the training day off. So Alton towers sounds good to me, local authorities set school years, complain to your MP if your not happy.

 

Here comes the "I work 23 hours a week, 52 weeks of the year for £1.50 a month, never had a day off sick in 137 years, pay £2,000 a week into my pension and will only get 75p a week after 63 years of paying when I retire, blah blah blah." BORING!

 

And now it's time to pick out my grammar mistakes in your quote and blame me/us for every world problem and society today.

 

Mark, signing off having just got in from my day at school, which finished nearly 5 hours ago.

 

Shaun, you can count on me.

Edited June 6, 2011 by markm

[-Mongrel-]

The bit that boils my pee, is that they can't have them during the holidays, oh no, we need to take yet another day off.

 

 

 

Agreed! We never had teacher training days when I was at school, so why are they needed now? It's a major ballache as we both work so it means someone taking time off or getting childcare arranged, so now it costs ME money for our teachers to get trained on TOP of the tax I already pay.

 

They get plenty of holiday, a few days of that should be used for training if required (half term etc). I don't think they get a particularly easy life, but at the same time it could be a lot harder. I'd take their hours for the time off TBH, and I am aware of the hours required, my sisters a head teacher.

Edited June 6, 2011 by -Mongrel-

[markm]

So do the Police and NHS not have any training either?

 

We had a teacher training day the Friday before half term on child safeguarding, is that not important? Spotting signs (some obvious and some not so) of child abuse and the current laws and how to handle individual cases?

 

We work for the tax payer, who else will pay?

 

Holiday, oh yes when your lying on the beach in Bendorm your often working (well guess what, so do I.) But your not in the office or place of work, why should I?

[DSPUK]

As I was reading this I accidently knocked my speaker control and speakers came on - I am not a fan of violins.

 

dave

[Ricko]

IN Service Education Training (INSET) Days were imposed by the then Secretary of State for Education Kenneth Baker, at some point between 1986 and 1989.

Teachers lost 5 days of their holidays for this privilege.

I have attended good training days (recognising drug misuse/substance abuse, child protection training-mandatory etc), I have also attended poor training led by outside agencies (who were getting paid good money).

They are compulsory for teachers, but the school arranges the dates.

Before anyone says that teachers get too many holidays, it is the government who decide this via the School Teachers Pay & Conditions Act.

To be a good teacher you just have to like working with kids (other peoples kids!)

[-Mongrel-]

So do the Police and NHS not have any training either?

 

Yes they do, as must you...but why at everyone elses inconvenience? Why must you be trained while the kids would be at school, never used to happen that way?

 

We had a teacher training day the Friday before half term on child safeguarding, is that not important? Spotting signs (some obvious and some not so) of child abuse and the current laws and how to handle individual cases?Didn't say you shouldn't have training, I said I don't see why it's in school time.

 

We work for the tax payer, who else will pay? Nobody, but why should the tax payer suffer further losses for inset days?

 

Holiday, oh yes when your lying on the beach in Bendorm your often working (well guess what, so do I.) But your not in the office or place of work, why should I?

 

When I'm on holiday, no, I don't work, I'm on holiday. I don't get 12+ weeks a year though, I make do with a couple. So no mate, I'm afraid I don't see any reason why you shouldn't work at least some of the school holidays for training, class planning, marking etc. Most of the population get about 20 days paid holiday, why do you deserve more?

[Willxx]

I think one or two of the comments show the real reason people get peed off with teachers holidays - the irritating whine of "we have to arrange child care" *** they are teachers not child minders - you choose to have kids - you take on the responsibility to care for them and that includes inconvenient times when you may prefer to or need to be doing other things, they are your children, all the time 24h a day etc and not an inconvenience that can be foisted off on the education system.

 

I'm not a teacher but, I assume like everyone else posting here, I went to school, its never been a secret how many holidays teachers get so why are so many people suddenly surprised to find out about them when they have children of their own?

Edited June 6, 2011 by Willxx

[miroku_fan]

Short working week. Long holidays. Good pay. If you are all so envious of teachers conditions then why not join the profession? I think that if you are honest you will know the reason why you would not set foot in a classroom today. Managing highly challenging behaviour and having to deal with an ever changing curriculum is only part of being a teacher. It is difficult to understand why teachers have become the whipping boys in our society. If you do believe that teaching is such a soft option then I would urge you to give it a go. I think that you will be unpleasantly surprised with your terms and conditions within the profession.

[markm]

Having a coffee break from planning some new curriculum for next year.

 

The fact is I (insert rude word) absolutely love teaching, done it since 1995 and never wake up in the morning and think "god I hate my job.". Yes the hours 'in house' are short, holidays are great and pay is reasonable to good (compared to a normal job) but I get the results for the kids, parents and school (yes I'm bragging, but I do), keep scrotes off the street (as they like what I teach) and try to give kids good memories (I've had former students come up to me and thanked me etc etc.)

 

BUT -

 

I've been assaulted twice, spat in the face with grem (proper throat stuff) and punched once, been told to "go" many many times, but that's what you get working in a deprived area (bottom 10% in the country) school.

 

DOUBLE BUT -

 

You also get to teach people like Cheryl Cole and yes, I did, teach her that is........ (yikes).

Edited June 6, 2011 by markm

[shaun4860]

Having a coffee break from planning some new curriculum for next year.

 

The fact is I (insert rude word) absolutely love teaching, done it since 1995 and never wake up in the morning and think "god I hate my job.". Yes the hours 'in house' are short, holidays are great and pay is reasonable to good (compared to a normal job) but I get the results for the kids, parents and school (yes I'm bragging, but I do), keep scrotes off the street (as they like what I teach) and try to give kids good memories (I've had former students come up to me and thanked me etc etc.)

 

BUT -

 

I've been assaulted twice, spat in the face with grem (proper throat stuff) and punched once, been told to "go" many many times, but that's what you get working in a deprived area (bottom 10% in the country) school.

 

DOUBLE BUT -

 

You also get to teach people like Cheryl Cole and yes, I did, teach her that is........ (yikes).

 

 

And thats just at the shoot he runs :o

 

cheers mark, knew i could rely on you...

 

shaun

 

Wouldnt teach for all the tea in china

[Evil Elvis]

I personally love them, gives me a chance to spend a sneaky day shooting or fishing with the kids!!! :good:

[poontang]

 

 

You also get to teach people like Cheryl Cole

 

I've been assaulted twice, spat in the face with grem (proper throat stuff) and punched once,

 

 

 

 

 

She hasn't changed much then? :o

[Greenhunter]

I know its been said, in a roundabout way, but 'Baker-days'(as they were known in my time as a teacher) were 5 days taken out of the 70-odd days holiday teachers used to get. The kids own holidays were kept 'as was'. In this respect parents do NOT have to find extra child care or make any further arrangements in order to perform their duty of care towards their own offspring! At this point I would like to refer you back to Willxx's previous post with which heartily concur

 

Can I just mention that I'm a retired teacher who was involved in more assaults, spitting, swearing and classroom destruction than I care to remember. I'll bet that there are few other professions where you can say that! It takes a very special, caring person to become one and hold down a job as a teacher.

 

Love saying the retired bit

 

GH

[V8landy]

the irritating whine of "we have to arrange child care" *** they are teachers not child minders - you choose to have kids - you take on the responsibility to care for them and that includes inconvenient times when you may prefer to or need to be doing other things, they are your children, all the time 24h a day etc and not an inconvenience that can be foisted off on the education system.

 

I'm not a teacher but, I assume like everyone else posting here, I went to school, its never been a secret how many holidays teachers get so why are so many people suddenly surprised to find out about them when they have children of their own?

 

 

Short working week. Long holidays. Good pay. If you are all so envious of teachers conditions then why not join the profession? I think that if you are honest you will know the reason why you would not set foot in a classroom today. Managing highly challenging behaviour and having to deal with an ever changing curriculum is only part of being a teacher. It is difficult to understand why teachers have become the whipping boys in our society. If you do believe that teaching is such a soft option then I would urge you to give it a go. I think that you will be unpleasantly surprised with your terms and conditions within the profession.

 

 

Many of the problems are because so called "parents" think they dont have to do XYorZ as it is the Teachers job to do that!

 

I am not a teacher, but my wife is (primary) the number of kids the come to school how can not dress them selves, use the toilet or barely speak is appalling.

 

If they spent their time teaching rather than been a part time parent thing would be better.

 

But this throws the whole ball back to the start of Labour Children issues.

[DSPUK]

A good few years ago now we had a very bad winter - snow up to your knees - well us lowly people had to clear yard before we could even get vans out - now notice we "had " got to the yard - so by time we could get vans out it was past mid morning - got to one "customer" after lunch only to get an ear bashing - yak yak yak she went on - anyway she was saying the weather's bad isn't it "so she noticed" I couldn't get to work today it so deep in snow -- me "Oh what do you do" bet you can't guess what she did ????

 

yep you got it "a teacher" - bin ****** off with them since.

 

dave