Spara Dritto Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'm looking at getting one of these to remove the plastic fouling in my barrels - It's becoming so irritating and I’m bored of getting the drill out... My questions are: 1). What is the difference (cleaning wise) between the "Stainless Steel brush" vs. the "Bronze" version? I know stainless steel is a harder metal (does this mean better?) but I've read that it still wont damage my barrels? 2). Would the tornado brush replace my Payne Galloway chamber and bore brushes? Any advice on this matter would be much appreciated. BI. My link My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) I've had a look around for them and noticed the majority or them that are sold here in the UK are called "Hoppe's style Tornado Brushes" Does this mean they aren't the original Hoppe's brushes? Could they be of lesser quality? Does this mean they could be more prone to scratching the bores? Edited September 26, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd rather have plastic fouling in my barrel than use a steel brush on it. Have you tried a solvent to soften it up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) I'd rather have plastic fouling in my barrel than use a steel brush on it. Have you tried a solvent to soften it up ? Yeah, I use Napier Gun cleaner. I leave it on there for 30 mins and then get a drill on it but still doesn't remove all of the plastic fouling. I've been told to use just about everything, break cleaner, toothpaste, t-cut for cars, petrol, wire wool, weakend ammonia, hydrogen peroxide... I'm not putting any of that in my gun i'd rather the plastic be there.. I may consider the wire wool, but super fine stuff.. I was told the tornado brushes are good, but… Edited September 26, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have both these brushes, and normally only use the bronze one. Like you I really struggle to get the barrels properly clean. (i use fibre carts) Firstly they are american threaded and thus need an american rod or parker hale adaptor. I'm not completely sure they make much difference. If the fouling is just after the chamber use a gallaway chamber brush, which is bigger, but don't push it down too far. This helps quite a bit. Also for me the Napier products just don't cut it. Have tried many products and the only one I've come across that does the job properly is the blue wonder gun cleaner. After using this stuff you have to oil the barrels just a little because otherwise they may rust because the blue wonder is not an oil it's a cleaner and thus won't stop rust. Hope that helps. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I used a bronze brush, with the cleaning rod attached to my variable speed drill. It worked a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I guess the best bet is just to stick with the drill method. I always wonder whether it will wear the bore in the long run though. Many thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 My gun's had about 30,000 plastic wad cartridges through it. Can't say I've ever been irritated by plastic fouling :lol: :lol: I use a boresnake - sometimes The bores shine like mirrors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Beretta Italy - I think you need to stop being so neurotic! OCD much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) I think I've got something worse then ODC! Edited September 26, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Shoot more, worry less. Modern guns are built to take quite a bit of punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Shoot more, worry less. Modern guns are built to take quite a bit of punishment. Do you mean guns as in the person shooting the gun or guns as the gun that is being shot . I am not so modern and dont like to much punishment, well not from shooting guns any how . zapp is absolutely correct .I have never seen a barrel so bunged up with fouling that you couldn't chamber a cartridge . Shoot em clean and give them a push through and a wipe down when they get wet . Damp and wet is your real enemy not a bit of plastic fouling . Harnser . Edited September 26, 2011 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Shoot fibre? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Shoot fibre? lol I was told they are just as bad :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was told they are just as bad :blink: Been shooting fibre for 4-1/2 years and not seen any signs of fouling at all, quick pass with a boresnake after every shoot and a "proper" clean & lube every 3 months or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Been shooting fibre for 4-1/2 years and not seen any signs of fouling at all, quick pass with a boresnake after every shoot and a "proper" clean & lube every 3 months or so. wow, what cartridges do you use? Take me ages to get my gun properly clean after a good shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 One of the main solvents in many bore cleaners is Acetone and that is sold in HDPE containers , plastic wads are a variation of polyethylene plastic ,HDPE = high density polyethylene , So it means that elbow grease is the main plastic wad residue remover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thanks Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monkey Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 wow, what cartridges do you use? Take me ages to get my gun properly clean after a good shoot. Why so long? what carts are you using? i can literally get away with running a mop through followed by a light coat of oil, job done Beretta Italy, i wouldn't use a stainless brush, stainless is pretty hard stuff and i wouldn't want to use it in shotgun barrels even if they are chrome lined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towngun Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I struggle to ever get a patch to come out clean as they say in the instruction guides. I was therefore speaking with a gunsmith about this subject (he specialised in old English guns). His comments were: that it was very uncommon for a gun to ever “shoot” its barrels thin and that more often damage was caused by overzealous cleaning than otherwise. Thus remember your barrels are steel and steel is harder than plastic and lead. Clean the barrels as best you can but don’t clean steel with steel and heaven forbid don’t go using a drill! I use a solvent to start saeled for 15 mins. Then I use a patch to swab out the muck followed by BF wire brush. 10 passes for each barrel. I then swab out until clean "ish". I don't use WD40 because this removes gunblue! Gunblue of course is rust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towngun Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 PS finally I use Youngs 303 as a protection on the barrels - also I just love the smell which to me is quintessentially the smell a gun should have - to me it perfume! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I've put about 1500 plastic wad carts thro my A612 and never seen a build up of plastic in the bore. I usually shoot a round of sporting and a round of skeet (about 75 carts + the occasional no bird) and clean it every time it goes out. Its never needed more than a light scrub with a bronze brush and I always drop a bit of oil in there and run a loose patch throgh it to spread it around before putting it away. Also just bought a 22 year old Beretta and the bores are gleaming. When using fibre wads isn't lead fouling more of an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 you want to try tetra action blaster, really strong bore cleaner stuff http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tetra-Gun-Degreaser-Action-Blaster-12oz-Gun-Cleaner-/120777471530?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item1c1ee5f62a heres a nylon brush http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bisley-Parker-Hale-Shotgun-Cleaning-Nylon-Brush-/120651254945?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&var=&hash=item61caea44e6 heres another http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shotgun-Nylon-Bristle-Brush-5mm-Male-Thread-RedKite-12g-16g-and-410-Gauge-/390357381476?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&var=&hash=item99ad8d27c8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 As Gorden R has said in past posts plug the ends of barrels and pour boiling water down the tubes leave to stand then quick pull through and light oil lube,job jobbed. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 BI I bought some rods and tornado brush back with me from USA - best bit of kit I had till I wore the brush out - trick is to cut thin strip of green scotch brite and wrap it round the grooves - I cleaned bore dry and it all just comes out like dust - I put rods in a battery drill by way -- I had a mate send me two more brush's over and brush bit on both came out of the alloy thread bit - - No way will they stay in -they were from wally world not Hoppies- So back to bronze brush but now I just leave gun dirty. If you send off for some order a few more and I will buy them off you. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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