cockercas Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Just to make it 100% clear the dog dosent come before the kids. And dirctly at cockerboy. Don't type anything on the internet that you wouldn't say to my face. And I'm sure your going to say you will. Well are you going to north vs south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Just to make it 100% clear the dog dosent come before the kids. And dirctly at cockerboy. Don't type anything on the internet that you wouldn't say to my face. And I'm sure your going to say you will. Well are you going to north vs south? I would never stoop so low as to threaten someone over the internet. why are you a double hard northener? Edited February 1, 2012 by cocker boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I would never stoop so low as to threaten someone over the internet. why are you a double hard northener? no threats were made from either side, i just dont think you would say that to my face, even if i was as 'hard' as a over ripe pear. the comment was made in jest, the same as most wifes&gfs say' oh he loves that ******* more than me. my kids long for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have a very strong bond with my dogs. They dont come into the house but I am out with them morning, afternoon (when possible) and in the outbuilding with them at night. They sleep in their kennels. There is no way that I'm going to share my food with something that sniffs its own ****, picks up dead animals and licks its ****. The dogs have chicken carcases for dinner, I have meat and veg - thats what they know and what they expect. They get scraps of veg and meat if theres any left overs but have this in their food bowls. They will watch me eat but dont try it on because they know they wont get anything. I dont see my bond being any stronger or weaker than the bond with a dog that is fed with its owner and has the run of the house. To me, they are dogs - they have a role to play and, much as I enjoy being with them, I dont humanise them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Dogs in my family are considered "full members" of the family, They are given proper human names.( no fido's )and my current dog even has been given the affectation of a middle name. My dog sleeps on my bed(under the covers if its cold) and is senior in the "family pack" to my lodger(friend of mine since childhood) and my stepfather (who was with my mother for 20 years !) However I wouldn't share food with my dog in the manner the OP is suggesting, mind you if i had children I wouldn't share food in that manner with them either! Good luck with that one when the dog decides your step-father has over stepped the mark! Both of my dogs are below all family members in this house and IMO that is exactly how it should be, even my 12 year old will tell them what to do, and they do it because they know that the Alpha in the pack will back the child over them. We have no issues with dog aggression in any way, anyone can take their food from them, they do NOT sleep on the bed, or get on the sofa either, they have beds if they want somewhere soft, they generally choose the lounge rug when we are in there. Some people really should remember that it's a dog, not another human member of the family. Edited February 1, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Interesting thread. I've had dogs all my life, firstly my parents dogs and then my own workers later on. I supply them with food, drink, shelter, stimulation in the form of exercise, training and work. Apart from a very elderly Lab and an inherited terrier who stay in the utility room, they have their own kennel space, they sometimes permitted in the house of an evening but are restricted to two rooms in the house. They are not permitted upstairs, on furniture or fed tidbits while we are at the table or other times. They respect me and I respect and am very fond of them. That said I do not look upon it as a partnership of equals - I am their pack leader, they do what I want them to do as when I want them to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 i once put a hamster in my mouth if that adds to the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosebank22 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 My lab does get away with alot - she is allowed upstairs, on the bed occassionally and gets the run of the house - even the sofa. However she does have her own cage that she goes to sleep in at night and during the day when she wants her own space. She also has another bed upstairs as the missus likes her near by. I think the Alpha role is an important one, but also is a dog with no aggression like she hasnt and will let you do anything to food, toys etc. Having said that I would never let her take a bite from my food before I was even thinking of being finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 i once put a hamster in my mouth if that adds to the thread. Had it been anywhere else before that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Did you chew or spit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 i once put a hamster in my mouth if that adds to the thread. I can't say I enjoyed it all that much. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I do have a very strong bond with my dog, she knows when it is time for play and when it is time for work. However, she also knows who is boss and this is very important for the bond between man and dog. My dog lives outside and this is where we keep all our working dogs. The OP certainly has a great relationship with his dog, however, I will not be letting my dog share food with me or lick my ice cream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I can't say I enjoyed it all that much. :lol: This made me LOL !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltsmark Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 What a disturbing post !. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yes definitely. It had plasters on its feet so it didn't scratch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) A dog is not just a dog, he is a member of my pack. The lowest member to be sure, but definately one of the family. In the summer he sleeps outside, in the winter inside. We all play with him and he generally has run of the house. He has no aggression, knows his place, rarely begs and is a first class working dog. He wants to please, works with you and for you. The whole family loves him dearly but even we would not let a dog share an icecream with us. He gets one of his own! Edited February 4, 2012 by pointerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don't like licking dogs either,hate coughing up the fur balls :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 i would realy like to see the person behind the thread as i am imagining all types of person this could be :/ :hmm: this is truely bizarre for me as someone who has had dozens an dozens of dogs i'm off :shoot: but will prob be thinking of this for a long time :bye2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 All this suggests that your dog now considers herself above, or at least equal to you in the pack heirarchy. This is not really a good place for her to be as you will be sending very mixed messages to her through your interaction with her and your family as she will see them as dominant to her, you dominant over them, but sub-ordinate/equal to her and it just won't compute for her (unless the family do the same and then she is just plain Alpha!!). I would never consider doing this with my dogs, and am about to have a tough time with the new one who was never socialised and has to find her place in the pack with the added confusion of my young son and my girlfriend and her dog dropping in weekly but not here permanantly. Dogs need to know their place, it is a very important facet of their social learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 i feed it of the fork aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 your just attention seeking now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cockercas Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 i like this thread. me and the dog are just about to sit down to home made shepherds pie mmmmmmmmm. must remember to blow on the food tonight. i burnt her tounge last night with pizza off topic but it makes me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Hope you don't let it lick peanut butter!! Did you ever buy that cocker at £2500, if you did i reckon her worth ain't near that now! Edited February 5, 2012 by GW80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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