Report: 71 percent of Britons back equal marriage rights for gay coupl

[gazzthompson]

Kind of a continuation from last couple of threads:

 

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/06/12/survey-71-percent-of-britons-back-equal-marriage-rights-for-gay-couples/

 

Obviously the website might not be the most unbiased, but you can check the '2012 Living Together report' yourself.

 

Stonewall’s five-yearly polling of public attitudes, for its 2012 Living Together report, said more than 80 per cent of British adults under 50 supported the proposal.

 

Also related: Church of England warning on gay marriage

 

The Church of England has warned that proposals to legalise gay marriage could undermine its status.

 

Could this lead to a separation of church and state? Thoughts ?

 

Edit: Added a poll, somewhat different from early poll on churches.

 

The Home Office's consultation paper proposes:

 

to allow same-sex couples to marry in a register office or other civil ceremony

 

to retain civil partnerships for same-sex couples and allow couples already in a civil partnership to convert it into a marriage

 

to allow people to stay married and legally change their gender

 

to maintain the legal ban on same-sex couples marrying in a religious service

 

Source: Home Office consultation paper

Edited June 13, 2012 by gazzthompson

[D_No]

I'm not against it per se but when we already have civil partnerships, we are essentially looking at spending millions of pounds to change a word on a Certificate.

 

I was asked to sign the petition by a gay friend and I told him that whilst I have no issue with it and see no reason why anyone cant marry anyone else in this day and age, I do object to the expense of rewriting 200 years of civil marriage law (1837 Registration act bought in Civil i.e non-religious marriage and compulsory registration of birth and deaths) at a time of economic instability and also

that people who are gay/lesbian/transsexual/bi etc.etc. can already have a legally recognised partnership, are treated equally (and sometimes favourably) and have all the rights as anyone else in this country where as there are people all around the world who are abused, imprisoned or killed for their sexuality.

 

Surely the "gay community" would be better using their campaign strength to promote this issue and help protect the rights of gay people world wide than pressuring the Government into using up already stretched resources to pay teams of solicitors to rewrite volumes and volumes and volumes of established law.

 

This is why "gay marriage" was bought in as civil partnership in the first place, avoiding the complications and expense of the above.

 

If Civil Partnership is now scrapped, that's another few million down the drain to appease a minority who would never support the bulk of politicians in the current coalition anyway.

 

The Church is also right to say that if "marriage" as a legal term will apply to any recognised partnership, they could well come under intense pressure from our good friends in Europe for "discriminating" policies i.e. only allowing men and woman to marry in a religious building.

 

That's my 2p anyway!

 

D

[Tug]

"of Britons surveyed".

Nobody asked me my opinion...

[gazzthompson]

"of Britons surveyed".

Nobody asked me my opinion...

 

Unfortunately, that's how polling works.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)

[poontang]

Unfortunately, that's how polling works.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)

 

Perhaps they should do a poll to show how many of the estimated 3.7m gays/lesbians in this country are practising Christians?

[Dekers]

Unfortunately, that's how polling works.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)

 

 

100% of the people I surveyed were opposed.

 

That's how polls work!

[gazzthompson]

100% of the people I surveyed were opposed.

 

That's how polls work!

 

Pretty sure you need a certain sample size.

[poontang]

Pretty sure you need a certain sample size.

 

2,074 were polled in the survey, from England, Scotland and Wales.

 

So that's one from Glasgow, one from Cardiff........and 2,072 from Brighton then

[gazzthompson]

As i understand it that's adequate and the norm for most country wide opinion polls.

[Salopian]

It's about time we got the balance back to normality.

Being Gay is not normal it is abnormal.

I am sick and tired of wuffters getting publicity. Get back in your closets :angry:

[guest1957]

It's about time we got the balance back to normality.

Being Gay is not normal it is abnormal.

I am sick and tired of wuffters getting publicity. Get back in your closets :angry:

 

Go jump

[four-wheel-drive]

I have nothing against it in principal but I can see the churches point of view in saying that if it was made legal for them to marry someone would soon take it to the human rights court and they would say that the church has to marry them.

 

Having said that I think the civil partnership should be enough how can you have a husband and wife if they are both male or female they have to be partners.

[Chard]

Who gives a flying ****? There are more important things to sort out in this country than this ****

[Azzurri]

Got to agree with Salopian on this one, the media would have us all believe this is normal behaviour these days....

[den5008]

I for one aint for it,sick and tired of it all. especially of that sore ****d *** peter tatchell :o

[Bloke]

It's about time we got the balance back to normality.

Being Gay is not normal it is abnormal.

I am sick and tired of wuffters getting publicity. Get back in your closets :angry:

 

By your logic, lets hide away the disabled, the disfigured (including injured war veterans), the mentally ill, different religions/skin colours - anyone society doesn't really include/approve of - Oh, wait a minute, that would include shooters, wouldn't it, maybe a 'special' case? How would you 'get the balance back'in favour of your personal preference - get rid of anyone who does not conform to your 'norm'?

Edited June 13, 2012 by Bloke

[NickS]

Giving others the same rights that you enjoy does not infringe or take those rights away. It simply makes it illegal to impose your prejudice and hate on others. It really is that simple.

 

Nick

[margun]

I agree with the consultation paper partially, the part I agree with is to 'maintain the legal ban on same-sex couples marrying in religious ceremonies'.

 

2,074 were polled in the survey, from England, Scotland and Wales.

 

So that's one from Glasgow, one from Cardiff........and 2,072 from Brighton then

 

:lol:

[Big Marty]

Sorry won't change my mind it's not right in any form.

[Supersonic]

Each to their own I say.

 

Anyway, must dash, I'm late for a pool party at Michael Barrymores.

 

N

[TrapFiller]

Who gives a flying ****? There are more important things to sort out in this country than this ****

I thought that exactly

[kdubya]

Who gives a flying ****? There are more important things to sort out in this country than this ****

 

perhaps if our elected reps thought the same way then your statement is fair enough , but when you look at the PC ever so soft gays in the house you start to realise that they have their own agenda and being straight aint on it, lets face it their was more to worry about than dropping the age of mutual bending to 16 but it became for some strange reason a priority

 

 

KW

[vole]

Not ***** about it . When kids are having the contents of their craniums splatted up the wall a five hour flight away , it seems a bit irrelevant to get worked up about this.

[Boromir]

No.

 

There is Males and Females for a reason whether you believe in God or not.

[digger]

agree wirh Chard. how much time and money wasted on this just like the fox hunting ban. gets major media coverage as it affects a small minority. change the law to somehow alter the lives of the few and make it the buisiness of many.