WelshLamb Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Have put about 100 pellets through my new Hammerli springer, but the groups can still vary by up to 3". Should they get tighter as the barrel wears in? Ive zeroed it as best as I can about 20 yards for now, but I suppose unless the groups get closer together its all a bit pointless Havent shot at anything alive with it yet, only targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Consistent hold and follow through are vital on a springer. They're much harder to shoot well than a PCP. On the upside, once you've mastered it it will improve your shooting with every other rifle (air or powder) you use Edited June 15, 2012 by Blunderbuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 if the gun is new to you welsh lamb it might be worth trying a few different brands of pellets if possible. i don't mean buying loads of different brands but if you have friends with air rifles pinch some of theres and do some research there will no doubt be a pellet that suits your gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topshunt Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 i believe it can take up to tin of pellets to lead the barrel in. but imho you might want to try some different pellets at 20 yards 3" grouping not too good. what pellets are you using? my tx200 was pellet on pellet at 35yards after i'd zeroed it, with odd flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 If the springer is in any way half decent, and the person behind it can shoot, there's no reason as to why the groups can't be on par with those of a PCP. 3" groups are quite big for such a short range. Pellet choice plays a major part in airgun accuracy. My 97k will group 2" at 25 yards using AA Field, but will group 1/2" at the same distance using AA Hunter pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The best I can do with my BSA tactical is 1" at 30 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 i believe it can take up to tin of pellets to lead the barrel in. but imho you might want to try some different pellets at 20 yards 3" grouping not too good. what pellets are you using? my tx200 was pellet on pellet at 35yards after i'd zeroed it, with odd flyers. What pellets were they if you don't mind me asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Anyone willing to stick a few pellets in the post for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Anyone willing to stick a few pellets in the post for me? Will do pm me your address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 i will gladly send you some of mine rws super h point .22 sometimes its the £10 a tin pellets and sometimes £5 marksman or eley wasp. pm you addres ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm in the .177 verity RWS super dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Have put about 100 pellets through my new Hammerli springer, but the groups can still vary by up to 3". Should they get tighter as the barrel wears in? Ive zeroed it as best as I can about 20 yards for now, but I suppose unless the groups get closer together its all a bit pointless Havent shot at anything alive with it yet, only targets How experienced are you, can you get tight groups out of another gun for instance? You can put 50000 pellets through some guns and still only get poor groups because the old adage it's the injun and not the arrow is NOT true. Some guns are better straight from the box even without tuning and will produce awesome groups and some won't. Obviously pellets come into it as do things like scope compatibility and mounts being tight etc but when all is said and done every gun has an innate potential. Some guns are way better than most shooters, some have their limits reached without too much effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 How experienced are you, can you get tight groups out of another gun for instance? Experience? Absolutely none whatsoever! Bought this air rifle a few weeks ago brand new from the shop with a scope on it. Have never shot any sort of rifle before that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Try RWS superdome or superfield. Crosman Premier magnums. If it still won`t group there could be something wrong with the gun. Hold the gun up to a strong light and look at the Rifles Barrel bore i had one that would not group and it was the bore of the Barrel it was as rough has a Bears ***. It looked like it had been Rifle cut with a jack hammer. Also check that the scope mounts are good and tight and the scope clamp rings are tight. It takes 20 to 30 Pellets to lead a Barrel after that you should be getting sub 1/2 groups at 20yds. :unsure: Is the Rifle a new one and is it smoking when you shoot it. Dieseling. You get oil being burned off some times with a new gun this will stop after a few hundred pellets through it. :thumbs: PS Hows the Land Rover doing Finished it yet. Happy Edited June 15, 2012 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 come on guys stick some pellets in an envelope an send them to wales. if she try 10 types of pellets and they all shoot the same then fair enough. something amiss with the gun or shooter i doubt it though the right pellet will fly straight in my eperience 15 years with air guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 PS Hows the Land Rover doing Finished it yet. Happy Yep! (See attached gratitous pic ) Just want to add its a .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 If it's a Hammerli 550, the recomended pellets are RWS Superdomes or Crossman Accupels. The RWS are heavier so I would try them first. They are a good hunting pellet for when you feel confident with your gun. Have you checked your scope mounts? Pretend they are a gasket - everything gently tightened nice and evenly. There is a vid on youtube showing how to use an artilery grip to get the best from springers too. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) There is a vid on youtube showing how to use an artilery grip to get the best from springers Plus 1 on the Artilery grip. Don`t grip a springer like your ringing its neck you have to let the gun recoil. Thats some artticulation on the landy dose it go well. Edited June 15, 2012 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I've heard a good description of how to hold a springer. It went something like this: "Hold it as you would a small bird; firmly enough to stop it escaping, but gently enough not to harm it." Also, don't rest the gun on a something hard. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I've heard a good description of how to hold a springer. It went something like this: "Hold it as you would a small bird; firmly enough to stop it escaping, but gently enough not to harm it." Also, don't rest the gun on something hard. Regards, Mark. That's probably the root cause of most springer troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Anyone willing to stick a few pellets in the post for me? howdy welshlamb mail me at jhses71@yahoo.co.uk with ur ad will send some rws superfield an domes an bisley mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halight Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Anyone willing to stick a few pellets in the post for me? I will send you some in the post if you PM your address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Grouping can be as tight as a ducks chuff, but it depends on the gun and the shooter. My old vulcan (with a gas ram) and my current fenman (also a gas rammer) with cloverleaf at 30 yards easily, I.e. as good as a pcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 if the gun is new to you welsh lamb it might be worth trying a few different brands of pellets if possible. i don't mean buying loads of different brands but if you have friends with air rifles pinch some of theres and do some research there will no doubt be a pellet that suits your gun As ive said on previous posts try different pellets. If you google pellet perfect thats a good starting point. You buy little selection packs and try lots of pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 My HW95 puts pellet on pellet at 35 yards, but it is so so easy to fluff a shot with a springer. Its all about consistant technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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