hedd-wyn Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 What's the crack with these then? Found myself buying a box of these just for the hell of it whilst my RDF was filling some paper work on a gun transfer. I've recently bought myself a three and a half inch pump action, and thought I would pick up the most powerful box of carts I could find on the shelf. My questions are... a) Am I going to regret buying them and bleed from the nose after firing m first shot? B) Is there really a need for that kind of beef in a cartridge? c) What kind of killing range are we talking about? Anyone caring to share their experience on these monsters would be appreciated. Shamone!!!!! Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I would make sure the gun is right in your shoulder! Let us know how you get on and pattern them at something like 50+ yards if you can, that would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 not tried them big boys but had some 50 gram bbs tried them in both o/u and semi in the o/u they kick like a mule but in the semi they were very usable, as for distance they do open up a lot so for me they were just 30 yard fox carts colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I would make sure the gun is right in your shoulder! Let us know how you get on and pattern them at something like 50+ yards if you can, that would be interesting. I might be able to give them a go this weekend, hopefully take some photos of the pattern as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 What's the crack with these then? Found myself buying a box of these just for the hell of it whilst my RDF was filling some paper work on a gun transfer. I've recently bought myself a three and a half inch pump action, and thought I would pick up the most powerful box of carts I could find on the shelf. My questions are... a) Am I going to regret buying them and bleed from the nose after firing m first shot? B) Is there really a need for that kind of beef in a cartridge? c) What kind of killing range are we talking about? Anyone caring to share their experience on these monsters would be appreciated. Shamone!!!!! Hedd heeeheeee sharmone check my bad self ............bad *** shells perfect for pigeons at 60 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Ok in a semi which is gas operated but in a pump ? I'd make sure you are leaning forward and have the stock well bedded. My semi throws the shell casings about15 yds with one of these. Good fun and I have killed geese at 50 yds with them (assuming yours are non toxic, naturally ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Drey busters extrodinare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Sounds like I'l be picking my teeth up with a broken collar bone then lads. I have no dignity really so I'l get my shooting partner to film me patterning the rounds and post it on PW to further humiliate myself if you fancy a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 sounds like fun... i tried a mates 50 gramm in my over/under and couldnt belive the kick compared to my 32 gramms.. a 63 sounds scarey, but what the hell... id have done the same... i went to pick up my semi the other day and tried to get a box of 50's but all they had in the big carts was those 63's which wouldnt fit my escort,, oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 shot loads of winchester magnum loads same cartridge, very slow but good on target mainly geese, shot them through my extrema and yes they kick like a mule! even with the beretta recoil system you know you are shooting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think the last time they were used in anger was 1945 to shoot down ME109's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) you will be fine hedd, your pumpy was made to handle these shells. if you get lucky enough to fire a box or two in a session you will probably look like a horse kicked you in the face! other than that they will be fine. handy to keep a couple in your belt for mr fox too p.s don't tell the missus how much you paid for them. if she's anything like mine she won't be best pleased Edited September 12, 2012 by aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 the only reason i want a box of 50's is to keep a couple in the belt incase i see a fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Rolled out a couple of geese with them,(62g 2's). Don't really like them. Pole axed a pink at 45 yards with them though. I would only ever use them as a 3rd shot and I don't think they are at all necessary stick to the 50 gram range or go to 10 bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Right, just been on the blower with WelshAndy off this forum and we've both agreed that we'l get a pattern test done at different ranges next weekend and post the video on PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Have fired a few dozen 66g carts yes they kick but if you hold it right its fine. No good for a days 100 clays unless you want detatched retina's and a dislocated shoulder, but for a hand full of shots while fowling they are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Right, just been on the blower with WelshAndy off this forum and we've both agreed that we'l get a pattern test done at different ranges next weekend and post the video on PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ok in a semi which is gas operated but in a pump ? I'd make sure you are leaning forward and have the stock well bedded. My semi throws the shell casings about15 yds with one of these. Good fun and I have killed geese at 50 yds with them (assuming yours are non toxic, naturally ! They are lead shells, so should only be used on wildfowl in scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yes they are lead. I would only be using them on fox and the odd sattelite, depending on how they perform and pattern next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Have used them from the Semi, they will be uncomfotable from a pump! Killed a good long range fox with them yet one at about 30 got slammed onto its side from a boadside chest and got up and ran past my mate and even the hounds couldn't find it- obviously it didn't survive but we never found it in the bracken beds (though it was super rough country) and the hounds often show only passing intrest when they are stone dead. All in all i preffer a 3" load of about 46 grm in no1 or bb, you can get second shots off quicker if required and they do seem to give very consistant results for a lot less dosh. i suspect pattern lets the 3 1/2" lead load down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 You will be fine with then, they dont kick that hard. the trick is not to pull the gun in to hard to the shoulder or the gun cant recoil properly and you body will take the full brunt. hold a little lose and grit your teeth so your cheekbone sits ring on the stock, this will also help. If you stress over then then that will bite. you need to be loose with them. we all look farward to hearing and seeing your pattern plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 You will be fine with then, they dont kick that hard. the trick is not to pull the gun in to hard to the shoulder or the gun cant recoil properly and you body will take the full brunt. hold a little lose and grit your teeth so your cheekbone sits ring on the stock, this will also help. If you stress over then then that will bite. you need to be loose with them. we all look farward to hearing and seeing your pattern plates. I will pas this message on to my shooting partner However I will be firing form the hip, I am more comfortable with the Clint Eastwood stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 You be fine, Honest, Would i lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Yeah they will kick and next time you will prob flinch too, not a good idea. The Winchester and Remington brands have buffered loads and pattern superbly, I don`t think the Gamebores are buffered, so the pattern will not be so good, even less so if you try too tight a choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Yeah they will kick and next time you will prob flinch too, not a good idea. The Winchester and Remington brands have buffered loads and pattern superbly, I don`t think the Gamebores are buffered, so the pattern will not be so good, even less so if you try too tight a choke. This was my thought exactly Henry, which is why I'm dying to test them out so we can put this to bed. Can't imagine there's need for that much poke in a cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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