Reece Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.commondecency.co.uk/home.html Some complaints are reasonable, but they want a 1 km exclusion zone around all domestic dwellings where shooting cannot happen. That is just too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 He has a home most can only dream of in the country yet moans about the activities that take place close to it. He probably complains about the pongy farm smells too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywack12 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Looking at that made my blood boil I can not put into words my thoughts on this idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 What a daft website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 To be honest I read through most of her (or his) back story and I can honestly understand their frustration, I don't think many of us would want someone par-taking in an hobby we have no interest in just outside of our gardens (Say you had someone start playing the drums badly, or razzing about on a dirt bike twice a week for half the year). Her moaning about the rearing pen and the shadowing trees I believe are both fair and could both be easily changed to keep both parties happy. It sounds to be that it was the sort of situation where careful, friendly conversation would of sorted this whole thing out peacefully, but both sides just hunkered down and held there ground and this is what we are left with. On some of the shoots I was involved with we would try our hardest to work alongside members or the local village, hoping to keep as friendly as terms as practically possible for just this reason, It's good for the community and saves a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 This is why freaks like this should be confined to cities. What a tool seriously if you live in the country side you should expect to embrace all aspects of it tractors going past early in the am, shooting all types of stuff people like this I just feel like slapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 As per what Bleeh said really. I'd be pretty hacked off if the neighbours grew rows of leilandii that overshadowed my home that I'd lived in for 25 years. However her views on shooting seem somewhat skewed and what she's proposing as a 'solution' is rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 To be honest I read through most of her (or his) back story and I can honestly understand their frustration, I don't think many of us would want someone par-taking in an hobby we have no interest in just outside of our gardens (Say you had someone start playing the drums badly, or razzing about on a dirt bike twice a week for half the year). Her moaning about the rearing pen and the shadowing trees I believe are both fair and could both be easily changed to keep both parties happy. It sounds to be that it was the sort of situation where careful, friendly conversation would of sorted this whole thing out peacefully, but both sides just hunkered down and held there ground and this is what we are left with. On some of the shoots I was involved with we would try our hardest to work alongside members or the local village, hoping to keep as friendly as terms as practically possible for just this reason, It's good for the community and saves a headache. +1 Public opinion of shooting is important. Shooters and keepers should not isolate themselves from the public - they should engage in discussion with locals to make sure any potential conflict is grubbed out before it starts. Then again, there are some people that you just can't please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Surely there's some buyer naivety from when she bought the house. If it were in an urban setting and she had an industrial estate backing onto her garden, or a pub next door, or was under a flight path, then she'd be daft to complain about any disturbance they caused her. They pre-existed her buying the house, so it was down to her to take that into account. Same with the shoot really. It looks like the shoot is being a bit bloody minded, but I'm sure she has antagonised them into it. Just because you buy a house in the middle of farmland doesn't mean that the only thing you'll hear is the sound of wheat growing. A farm is an industrial estate too and shooting is a part of that industry. I'm assuming She's a she.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) You bought a house in the country by a farm where you KNEW Pheasant shooting took place, you could have bought a house next to a railway, river, airport, motorway, school etc etc, and no doubt you would be campaigning to get them closed as it interfered with your lifestyle. Has it occurred to you your neighbours may not like to view your washing on the line or the colour of your house, are they campaigning to move you? Get a life, you live in the country, how is your campaign coming on to ban muck spreading and Church bells? Edited November 8, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Simple answer buy the land 1km round your house.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I used the contact button and sent a message. Polite and everything, but basically sayikng go back to the city. And i did mention they probably get annoyed by the smell ofmuck spreading noise of grawin dryers, slow tractors, mud on the road etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The time it took to create that incredibly comprehensive wesbsite may have been better spent talking to the landowner/shoot captain/gamekeeper to sort things out. If I were him , I'd take up shooting and demand a free peg on every shoot day! Seriously, though, he's a ***** for not sussing things out before he bought the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 For those that haven't bothered to read the website they have owned the house for 25 years, before th shoot was established. They haven't just moved in from the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 People who bought houses near Brands Hatch racetrack complained about the noise and won. Remedial action was taken to reduce the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Has it occurred to you your neighbours may not like to view your washing on the line or the colour of your house, are they campaigning to move you? In the village where Mother lives, and where I was born, someone moved in to a rented house and had hardly got his stuff unpacked when a delegation of townie incomers turned up to inform him that the condition of his garden was unacceptable and he would be expected to keep things to a decent standard if he intended to stay. I might move back just for the sport. Who the **** do they think they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 From the websites home page; ' thereby illustrating why and how the law should be amended, so it protects the liberty of everybody who lives in the countryside.' The method by which they wish to achieve this 'liberty; for all? Place restrictions on the actions of others. I can understand their frustrations totally, but its something that is inherent with the property and they should accept. If I moved into a country house and decided I didn't like tractors using the road to get to the farm yard I would probably move, not start a website demanding farm traffic be removed from public roads. Some things just have to be accepted for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 For those that haven't bothered to read the website they have owned the house for 25 years, before th shoot was established. They haven't just moved in from the city. I read enough of the bull, they made it Clear they knew Pheasant shooting takes place when they bought it, they didn't make it clear it wasn't actually happening at that time, poorly worded intro perhaps, they wrote it, the website is full of emotive drivel, few will have the inclination to read it in detail after the first few sections. It's the NIMBY syndrome, happens everywhere all the time, I know it goes on, lots of people enjoy it and it pays wages, but I don't want it near me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 You bought a house in the country by a farm where you KNEW Pheasant shooting took place, you could have bought a house next to a railway, river, airport, motorway, school etc etc, and no doubt you would be campaigning to get them closed as it interfered with your lifestyle. Has it occurred to you your neighbours may not like to view your washing on the line or the colour of your house, are they campaigning to move you? Get a life, you live in the country, how is your campaign coming on to ban muck spreading and Church bells? It's questionable if it's a "nuisance", but the common sense approach is to look at weather you moved to the nuisance or the nuisance moved to you. I'm sure they have been pheasant shooting in the countryside for longer... I reckon they sound like a right pain in the back side.... it surprises me not that they are now looking at lelandii or a muck heap, container, broken digger.... I bet they use humane rat traps and listen to a lot of Queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 This is exactly why our countryside is at risk. I have replied suggesting the value of shooting, talking to his local shoot to reach a better understanding and that its no-one's fault but his own for not checking. I also pointed out that if he has ever thoughts about it, why should a person who owns land not use it for any law-abiding legitimate use.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 "Like many people, I knew pheasants were shot, but did not know about the logistics, practice, history or law of shooting, so it never occurred to me that one day my home could be, or would be, surrounded by people with guns killing pheasants" Taken from the webby.... So go and talk to them and find out more about it.... I was beating yesterday on a shoot..and was talking to the others while waiting for the 3rd drive...All of us spread out round the field and I remarked..."If I drove pass this sight 4/5 years ago I would be thinking what the hell is going on it that field" .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroin Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 The heading to his page reads ' common decency ' 'other people live in the countrside too' What more needs to be said? It's not really clear what message he is trying to get over. Is it the phezies running around outside his house he's not appy with or the firing squad in the field? Other people do live in the countryside too, so do pheasants, bunnys, crows, magpies,foxes, ohh and the odd ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2000e2000e Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 The way I read it they have lived there for approx 25 years and the shoot started about 15 years ago, so they lived there before the shoot started. Looks like they live just off a road or farm road so complaining about rural employees driving up and down the road in the course of their job, seems unreasonable to be, it could be a free range chicken unit they would still have traffic. I think what really lets them down is the sheer hysteria of seeing some one with a gun, and seeing things die, as that’s the way of the countryside, a fox kills a rabbit, a hawk takes smaller birds, and we take pheasant! Basically they want the land owner to keep the land surrounding the house how they want it and forget that the land owner needs to make the land pay and this is how they have chosen to do it. They object to 'intrusions' if these where actual incursions on to their property this may be a point however all the 'intrusion' are people working or enjoying themselves on land they own or have legal access to that happens to be next to their house, how dare they! Shooting can be noisy there is no doubt of this, if this was their objection then they may get some sympathy but as shooting occurs in the day not sure if the EH would listen to their complaint. From the look of land I reckon the shoot probably shoots 10-15 days a season and not more than twice a week. The landowner informed them that a shoot would be starting, informed them that lots of trees would be planted, no need so had the common decency to let them know, I guess the shoot could inform them of shooting days, and the approximate time that the drive that is close to their garden would be shot, try and keep on good terms, offer oven ready birds or other endorsements to keep on good terms, there are lots of ideas for shoots to keep neighbours sweet. However I think this person would be one that has no interest in any of this as their objections are not just to practicalities and some of the genuine impositions, noise etc, but the sheer repulsion of seeing a man with a gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_No Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I agree with much of the above, emotive codswallop! I tell you what though, they, the author, have managed to get some cracking photos of guns and dogs! I suspect many were taken whilst trespassing on the land in question though, typical anti hiding in the bushes with a camera, would probably sue if they got hit by falling shot or injured by machinery or whilst interfering with a trap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I have some sympathy for them in the fact that the land surrounding them has changed but that`s life. If you take shooting out of the equation I feel they would still be uncomfortable with whatever the land owner did to change the outlook from their garden. It`s his land and presumably he could put it to what agricultural use he deemed fit. I wonder what their thoughts would be on a piggery or chicken houses. It`s a pity that they are taking out their frustrations on shooting in general just because they see their idyll in the country loose some of it`s appeal. Others would see it as a benefit and be offering their skills in helping with the running of the shoot or at the very least beating or picking up. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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