currieboy Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hi i own about 40 acres and want to plant about 20 specifically for shooting pigeons, what should i plant, because its for shooting anything will do , please help!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currieboy Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 cannabis hahahha i might try it any one have ne other ideas??? Please help?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currieboy Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 peas seems to get the pigeons on. and rape (unless there is alot about) You'd have to be careful though because you cant shoot pigeons for sport it has to be for crop protection what can i do so it is for crop protection??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currieboy Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 well im not sure really but unless you were harvesting the crop then i should think you would be 'breaking the law' if you were shooting them Im not entirely sure here. Someone else come and give me a hand i was planning on harvesting it but as it is not my livelyhood did not mind if it was nt the most economical crop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 If the birds are a pest preventing you from realising the true value of your fields you can shoot them on those fields. I'm sure you must be hoping for a bumper harvest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currieboy Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I think this topic is a bit dodgy, you can only shoot pigeons to protect crops, asking what crops to plant to attract them does not sound very responsible IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Where are you living currieboy? Fill your profile out and youll get more replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 but as it is not my livelyhood there is your answer then,it a none starter. unless you rent it out to someone who makes a living from harvst. then as the owner you have the shooting rights. and a bit of folding in your pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 If you were to plant a field with crops, say peas, with the intention of harvesting them, then you are entitled to protect your crop. If you later choose not to harvest them, that is your business and there is no law that forces you to harvest them. What happens when bad weather, or a fall in crop prices, results in crops getting ploughed in ? The answer is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Depends on where you live. Please fill in your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 If you have to be seen too be actually protecting crops, to shoot pigeon How is shooting pigeon over stubble legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 You'd have to be careful though because you cant shoot pigeons for sport it has to be for crop protection Come on George you`ve put your foot in now explain why this is so We`re waiting......... well im not sure really but unless you were harvesting the crop then i should think you would be 'breaking the law' if you were shooting them Im not entirely sure here. Someone else come and give me a hand No way you made the statement you sort it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Henry D I like it you rotter If you have to be seen too be actually protecting crops, to shoot pigeon How is shooting pigeon over stubble legal? The pigeon are eating the grain that has fallen on the ground among the stubble which you intend to pick up because you hate waste. You are within your rights to protect your harvest (spiled grain) from those pesky birds that are eating it all. ct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgunners Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Remember the GUN LAW Folks. COUNTRY sportsmen keen on pigeon pie will need to put the cat among them first. Farmers and landowners will also need to hone their windmill gyrations and scarecrow impersonations if they are planning a potshot at crop-eating birds. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Only when the birds fail to respond can he or she shoot it for dinner. The same rule applies to farmers who have shooting days blasting woodpigeons and rooks to protect their crops or gamebirds. At this time of the year thousands of people pull on their camouflages for a day’s rough shooting. They are now acting unlawfully. They too must first engage in frightening techniques to disperse the birds. Only if their antics are ignored can they shoot legally. Failure to comply can result in a fine of up to £5,000 or a maximum six months in prison. The new rules emerged this week when new “general licences†were issued covering the killing of pest species, which also include magpies, jays, collared doves, Canada geese, and greater and lesser black-backed gulls. However, without warning, a new rule was added that states: “This licence can only be relied upon in circumstances where the authorised person can demonstrate that appropriate non-lethal methods of control such as scaring are either ineffective or impracticable.†Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Remember the GUN LAW Folks. COUNTRY sportsmen keen on pigeon pie will need to put the cat among them first. Farmers and landowners will also need to hone their windmill gyrations and scarecrow impersonations if they are planning a potshot at crop-eating birds. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Well in that case then decoys should be illegal to use, What a load of b*****x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 If you have to be seen too be actually protecting crops, to shoot pigeon How is shooting pigeon over stubble legal? Interesting point you have raised there Dr Watson LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgunners Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Remember the GUN LAW Folks. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Only when the birds fail to respond can he or she shoot it for dinner. Dave K Which reminds me of an incident a couple of years ago when we arrived to shoot some land, and I shouts"**** off" in a loud voice and a bonking couple emerge shepishly and scurry back off to their motor. Does that count.? Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Remember the GUN LAW Folks. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Only when the birds fail to respond can he or she shoot it for dinner. Dave K Which reminds me of an incident a couple of years ago when we arrived to shoot some land, and I shouts"**** off" in a loud voice and a bonking couple emerge shepishly and scurry back off to their motor. Does that count.? Dave K Only if you got it on the digicam :o LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ah, yes the letter of the law. I'm sure that we all attempt to scare the the pests off where practicable don't we? Plod has got better things to do than investigate this sort of rubbish which cannot be proved. I mean how often do you here of people going to court for parking facing the wrong way on a street, not registering with the council where you live, or for not having your cax tax displayed on the bottom left of the windscreen the correct way up. (Unless you've upset plod of course!) I absolutely guarantee that most of us could be booked up for a lot of silly minor things, but practicalities take hold and it is in fact very unlikely that will happen. The same applies to this law- it cannot be proved if you say the right things. Perhaps if someone doesn't have the nounce the see that anyway they shouldn't be shooting 'cause they aren't the livelist cartridge in the box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Can I suggest that you contact one of the specialist firms who advertise in Shooting Times. The may be able to suggest something that would offer shooting over a longer period than say rape, may benefit other wildlife in the area, possibly qualify for some form of grant. You really do need to speak to a specialist. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 To get serious for a moment (so unlike me ) it's a part of the law that's never been tested so we don't know for sure but the general licence whilst not specifically excluding the feeding of birds in order to kill them either by way of sacrificial crops or feed spread on the ground does imply that it might not be the way to go. What we should all remember is that DEFRA can (and this is stated on the licence) modify or revoke it at any time. If we are seen to be irresponsible in our methods it won't be long before the anti brigade cotton on to that and pressure DEFRA to revoke the licence and we all know how important public opinion is to our lily livered government departments. No licence no shooting. No shooting no PW Also it's simply not sporting old chap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngshot Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 If you have to be seen too be actually protecting crops, to shoot pigeon How is shooting pigeon over stubble legal? Hes shooting the pigeons that are going to eat all of the seed that will be sown in the next few weeks and damage his crop next year!! Remember the GUN LAW Folks. COUNTRY sportsmen keen on pigeon pie will need to put the cat among them first. Farmers and landowners will also need to hone their windmill gyrations and scarecrow impersonations if they are planning a potshot at crop-eating birds. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Only when the birds fail to respond can he or she shoot it for dinner. The same rule applies to farmers who have shooting days blasting woodpigeons and rooks to protect their crops or gamebirds. At this time of the year thousands of people pull on their camouflages for a day’s rough shooting. They are now acting unlawfully. They too must first engage in frightening techniques to disperse the birds. Only if their antics are ignored can they shoot legally. Failure to comply can result in a fine of up to £5,000 or a maximum six months in prison. The new rules emerged this week when new “general licences†were issued covering the killing of pest species, which also include magpies, jays, collared doves, Canada geese, and greater and lesser black-backed gulls. However, without warning, a new rule was added that states: “This licence can only be relied upon in circumstances where the authorised person can demonstrate that appropriate non-lethal methods of control such as scaring are either ineffective or impracticable.†Dave K I think you will find that this is old now and the part of the wording of the general licence has been changed. i remeber several articals about it in shooting magazinse about a year ago. That wording is not true the pset controler has to be satisified that scaring tecniques will not work, then its alrite to shoot the things. Meaning you turn up to your field, think to your self that if you scare the pigeons then they will just come back so it inefective, then start shooting. Young Shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 If you have to be seen too be actually protecting crops, to shoot pigeon How is shooting pigeon over stubble legal? Hes shooting the pigeons that are going to eat all of the seed that will be sown in the next few weeks and damage his crop next year!! Remember the GUN LAW Folks. COUNTRY sportsmen keen on pigeon pie will need to put the cat among them first. Farmers and landowners will also need to hone their windmill gyrations and scarecrow impersonations if they are planning a potshot at crop-eating birds. The Government has ruled that it is now illegal to shoot a crow, rook or pigeon for the pot without scaring it first. The legislation says shooters must attempt to frighten off the birds before pulling the trigger. Only when the birds fail to respond can he or she shoot it for dinner. The same rule applies to farmers who have shooting days blasting woodpigeons and rooks to protect their crops or gamebirds. At this time of the year thousands of people pull on their camouflages for a day’s rough shooting. They are now acting unlawfully. They too must first engage in frightening techniques to disperse the birds. Only if their antics are ignored can they shoot legally. Failure to comply can result in a fine of up to £5,000 or a maximum six months in prison. The new rules emerged this week when new “general licences†were issued covering the killing of pest species, which also include magpies, jays, collared doves, Canada geese, and greater and lesser black-backed gulls. However, without warning, a new rule was added that states: “This licence can only be relied upon in circumstances where the authorised person can demonstrate that appropriate non-lethal methods of control such as scaring are either ineffective or impracticable.†Dave K I think you will find that this is old now and the part of the wording of the general licence has been changed. i remeber several articals about it in shooting magazinse about a year ago. That wording is not true the pset controler has to be satisified that scaring tecniques will not work, then its alrite to shoot the things. Meaning you turn up to your field, think to your self that if you scare the pigeons then they will just come back so it inefective, then start shooting. Young Shot I could just imaging that...Go into a field, scare all the pigeons off, lay a few decoys and get them back in.. Thats the most stupid rule iv ever heard.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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