Reece Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/22/new-zealand-cat-lovers-campaign There's a campaign in NZ to get cat owners to neuter their pets and keep them indoors, to protect native wildlife. Many of NZ's birds are endangered and extinct in some areas because of cats and other predators. But cat lovers want to stop it. I know this is in NZ, but this really annoys me. These cat lovers don't seem to care at all about wildlife. Some even suggest cats benefit birds by eating rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) http://www.guardian....lovers-campaign There's a campaign in NZ to get cat owners to neuter their pets and keep them indoors, to protect native wildlife. Many of NZ's birds are endangered and extinct in some areas because of cats and other predators. But cat lovers want to stop it. I know this is in NZ, but this really annoys me. These cat lovers don't seem to care at all about wildlife. Some even suggest cats benefit birds by eating rats. sounds just like the crack pot stories our antis make up on a regular basis, what will they want to ban next? Edited January 23, 2013 by Paul223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypaint Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hope they do it over here! Far to many of the things. Most cat owners are very arrogant to the fact of the damage cats do, I used to have a neighbours cat pooping in the garden, but as neighbour was a plonker I kept posting the cat poop back through his letter box, he soon got the hint and kept it in. Perhaps they could put them on the general licence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I hate the things with a passion-most owners seem to be dried up old spinsters with no intentions of learning how much damage these creatures do.I went to a party last summer where the house owner (a policewoman) was explaining how much affection her cat gives her,she went on to explain about all the birds the cat brings into the house "some of them are such pretty colours" I had to leave.Saying that,I would nit harm one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I am not a cat lover not am I a cat hater. I personally don't have a problem with cats but I much prefer dogs. Having said that I believe that in the majority of cases cats should be neutered to minimise the possibility of unwanted kittens. There should however be a few exceptions to the rule, such as pedigree cats or registered breeders. I think that this step could go a long way oner in the Uk towards protection the song bird population! I could say that the same rule could apply to immigrants but I will not as that might be seen as racist! (Please note that this is nothing more than a "Tongue in cheek remark and nothing mkore than my sense of humour kicking in so if the mods want to delete this comment then please feel free to do so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 As a smallholder, cats are absolutely necessary. End of story. There is an old saying : if you live out in the countryside, you've got cats, or you've got mice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Ok let the fun commence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) As I see it cats are a waste of good fur beastly things and if you live in the country buy mouse traps the only time that we ever had mice in the house was when we had a cat brought the things in to tortur to death but they got away I have always liked the idea of moving to NZ it sound even better now. Edited January 23, 2013 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 As a smallholder, cats are absolutely necessary. End of story. There is an old saying : if you live out in the countryside, you've got cats, or you've got mice. I agree, I lock one in each outbuilding - it's such a pain having to find new cats every six or seven weeks though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I agree, I lock one in each outbuilding - it's such a pain having to find new cats every six or seven weeks though! What you are trying to tell us now that the mice are eating the cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 What you are trying to tell us now that the mice are eating the cats. That there are no mice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 The problem with places like nz and oz is that they have such Large areas of wilderness that animals like cats and dogs go feral. And then breed like Mad. This is bad news for nz that has none flying birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) The problem with places like nz and oz is that they have such Large areas of wilderness that animals like cats and dogs go feral. And then breed like Mad. This is bad news for nz that has none flying birds. What they only have penguins in New Zealand??? :lol: Edited January 23, 2013 by m3vert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive By Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I like cats and dogs - contraversial i know... I agree with the neutering though - it's standard practice for most rescue centres in this country. I think in some cases it should be a case for humans too as the population explosion probably does more damage to animals in general than a few cats could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plank06 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Iv always said I'd fancy one of these big cats as a pet, like a bobcat or panther! Anybody know where they sell them ha ha? If you get a fast runner you've got a serious rabbiting machine, and of course all lady's love fluffy things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 The problem with places like nz and oz is that they have such Large areas of wilderness that animals like cats and dogs go feral. And then breed like Mad. This is bad news for nz that has none flying birds. This is certainly true in OZ. There are areas where ground nesting birds which would normally have no natural predators have been almost exterminated by domestic cats, as in the case of the mutton birds on Philip Island in Victoria. Not only does NZ have many flightless species, they are mostly unique to those islands. If they become extinct because of someones wretched cat they're gone forever. Good on the Kiwis. Get rid of the cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Im amazed this thread hasnt been locked.Usually anything to do with cats on here is often followed by shoot them*hang them*burn them with fire. As for the Kiwi's agenda-neuter them yes,but they wont ban cats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I like cats and dogs - contraversial i know... I agree with the neutering though - it's standard practice for most rescue centres in this country. I think in some cases it should be a case for humans too as the population explosion probably does more damage to animals in general than a few cats could... As I see it if it was not for people there would not be any small cats around as the wolfs and larger meat eaters would have soon killed them all off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 you can shoot feral cats in nz and oz i belive does bug me how cats kill the littlw wild birds but thats nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Last statistics I saw was that loose cats kill about 1.1 million song birds in the US each year. That alone is worth it to make people keep them indoors by law. I have two or three loose in my neighborhood so adding to the song bird issue the little muppets dig in my flower beds and my cocker seems to love rolling in cat **** which is ever so pleasant to deal with.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) I seem to remember reading some were that in Germany if you find cat is more than 50 mtr from a dwelling that it is legal for you to shoot it as it is then classed as a pest to wild life . bob Edited January 23, 2013 by mowdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I wonder how many mice and rats are killed each year by farm cats, quite a few I'll bet. Apparently Siamese cross cats make the best mousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I like cats and dogs - contraversial i know... I agree with the neutering though - it's standard practice for most rescue centres in this country. I think in some cases it should be a case for humans too as the population explosion probably does more damage to animals in general than a few cats could... It was humans who caused the cat problem by introducing them to NZ. Don't treat the damage done by cats and damage done by humans as though they are separate. Human overpopulation is a problem, especially in developing countries with little access to contraception. I think we should be sending condoms to Africa. So everyone, be sure to wash a couple out and send them off :lol: you can shoot feral cats in nz and oz i belive does bug me how cats kill the littlw wild birds but thats nature It's not nature - domestic cats do not belong in the countryside and would not be a problem if it wasn't for humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 you wouldnt let your dog run wild so shouldnt a cat !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 As a smallholder, cats are absolutely necessary. End of story. There is an old saying : if you live out in the countryside, you've got cats, or you've got mice. Exactly, our farm cat's earn their living many times over. The number of rats and mice they kill far outweigh the number of birds they kill. We have no shortage of birds around the farm but rodents are in short supply. The problem in the real countryside is there are not enough cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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