Speeding ticket

[henry d]

Just been done for not stopping at a red light, in a fully loaded artic, in the rain.

 

Next time I'll slam the anchors on last minute and jack knife it in the middle of the road

 

In the cab you would have had a good view of the road ahead, you would/should have seen the traffic light system and should have adjusted your speed to suit and been able to stop in time and in full control.

[al4x]

 

In the cab you would have had a good view of the road ahead, you would/should have seen the traffic light system and should have adjusted your speed to suit and been able to stop in time and in full control.

 

There are a few flaws with that concept Henry the first one is Lorry drivers are always in the right and the second that is compounded by being female

[keg]

Was caught both times by vans once in each direction, they can get you face on and going away, makes no difference to a radar detector.

 

Right here's a question, have any of you noted when approaching a fixed camera or a van that people not exceeding the limit slow down to sometimes 10mph below the limit.

 

Really annoys me when I use the A69 to Carlisle happens all the time, wonder if these people don't know what speed they are doing.

Bang on Sha, it happens on the Leeds ring road at Rodley. It's a 60 limit. I don't think it's a case of not knowing their speed, they don't know what the speed limit signs mean. Further round on the A65, it clearly states that it's a 40 and this road has cameras every 200 mtrs but I still see people braking to 30

[kdubya]

Just been done for not stopping at a red light, in a fully loaded artic, in the rain.

 

Next time I'll slam the anchors on last minute and jack knife it in the middle of the road

Tut Tut one should always be in a position to stop safely, I would suggest you were traveling to fast to stop when required ( amber does come first does it not)

 

KW

[JonathanL]

i reckon if you get caught speeding by a van or other hand held device its worth a challenge. I mean, what a cheek to dish out a punishment without any representation, no witnesses, and no court appearance. So someone says you were speeding and you are supposed to just take it and pay up. Whats up with people? If you are really going like the clappers then its bang to rights, but if its a few miles an hour then i would want evidence other than just someones word. I want proof of calibration, fitness of the officer, etc etc. I dont like this type of justice, load of nonsense.

 

I tend to agree. I've had speeding fixed penalties on, I think, four occasions since passing my test in 1989. I've never argued any of them apart from once when I categorically was not speeding. This was with a temorary camera, not a fixed one on a pole.

 

I obtained the picture and other stuff including the calibration certificate. The whole way in which this system works is so incredibly dodgy it would disgrace a banana republic. The calibration is done by an outside company, a subsidiary of the manufactuer, and there is only one place which does it. That company happens to be the company which imports and services the cameras and speed measuing equipment and the signature on the calibration certificate is that of the managing director of said company!

 

What is even more shocking, is that if you plead not guilty (which I didn't, I paid the FP) and challenge the camera evidence the guy who the prosecution produce as their expert witness (who is supposed to be impartial) is the same bloke!!! He's hardly likely to say that there was a problem with his camera or the calibration certificate which bears his signature is he!

 

Totally and utterly corrupt to the core.

 

J.

[JonathanL]

Just been done for not stopping at a red light, in a fully loaded artic, in the rain.

 

Next time I'll slam the anchors on last minute and jack knife it in the middle of the road

 

The argument is though that you should always be travelling at a speed in which you can stop.

 

J.

[Flynn]

Been done by the law a few times, caught doing 100 + in a 70, unmarked golf, however when he stopped me he did say that because i i did not try and scam him with 101 excuses (fair play you got me bang to rights,) he did me an SP50 3 points and £60 fine,

 

 

 

You were monumentally lucky - that should be a pretty much instant ban.

 

I was nailed many years ago for 71 in a 40 (dual carriage way, laid through the middle of farming land so no people around, no paths... no reason for it to be 40 really, but it was). I was marked down for 70 rather than 71 to avoid the court appearance for over 30 over the speed limit.

 

6 points, 180 fine after pleading guilty by post. This was back around 1997 I guess. GSXR 1100, 23 hours and 30 minutes old!

 

 

To only get 3 points and a 60 fine, was taking mercy on you.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Flynn

[TaxiDriver]

There's been a rash of minor collisions and fender benders locally,

mostly caused by people trying to read the glut of small poorly printed and unlit posters and signs proclaiming,

 

 

"There's No Excuse for Poor Driving"

[BRNDL]

There's been a rash of minor collisions and fender benders locally,

mostly caused by people trying to read the glut of small poorly printed and unlit posters and signs proclaiming,

 

 

"There's No Excuse for Poor Driving"

HAHAHA

[955i]

In Hampshire thry're all forward facing (Truvelo's) so that you get your face photographed, no arguing with that.

Must remember to come to Hampshire for a blast on the bike then LOL

[Thunderbird]

 

I did ask for photographic evidence and had a very nice A4 photo in return, showing the rear end of the car. Upon noticing the car was under braking, I thought best to cough for it and avoid an embarrassing moment in court!

 

It's a great photo, I've seen it, one for the album definitely. You can just make out his melon through the rear window.

[rabbiter]

hypothetical question,what happens if youre in a company van,where any of the staff could have been driving,going away from a speed cam van,the works van has no rear windows?

Edited June 27, 2013 by rabbiter

[spanj]

hypothetical question,what happens if youre in a company van,where any of the staff could have been driving,going away from a speed cam van,the works van has no rear windows?

employer obliged to keep records of user or they get done !

[rabbiter]

I see!

[bruno22rf]

Gotta love the system- In the last 5 years I have been burgled and had nearly a grands worth of tools nicked, 3 years ago my Caravan was stolen then last month some low life cut the Cat off my Shogun (about £700 to replace). The police have not bothered to solve any of these crimes and then last week I got a ticket for doing 2mph over the limit (35 in a 30). I think that, if it were possible, they offered me the option of removing my contribution to the police that is included in my council tax, in return I would not call the police or rely on their help, I would tick the box.

[spanj]

Gotta love the system- In the last 5 years I have been burgled and had nearly a grands worth of tools nicked, 3 years ago my Caravan was stolen then last month some low life cut the Cat off my Shogun (about £700 to replace). The police have not bothered to solve any of these crimes and then last week I got a ticket for doing 2mph over the limit (35 in a 30). I think that, if it were possible, they offered me the option of removing my contribution to the police that is included in my council tax, in return I would not call the police or rely on their help, I would tick the box.

35 in a 30 is 5mph over the limit mate

[HDAV]

35 in a 30 is 5mph over the limit mate

*****................Well if burglars had to go around with their name and address on their head it would make the system much easier for the police!

[overandunder2012]

I think that it's the case that flashing cars approaching a speed trap can lead to you being done for obstruction of an officer in the execution of his duties.

 

J.

thats going to be a tuffy to prove

[keg]

Many years ago the village in which I lived tried to get a 30mph speed limit through because it had a wide High St and vehicles regularly did 50-60mph regardless of villagers crossing the road. We were told that the village could not have a limit because the road was not dangerous enough. We needed 3 people to have been killed in 5 years. You can imagine how quick the local MP got that decision changed following the pitchfork and torch light demo.

The Village was one of these places that had a main part with various 'ends'. The council only installed the limit through the main village. Then a four year old boy got killed just outside the limit but still in the village boundary by a speeding car so they moved it to cover the whole village.

That memory stays with me so, as best I can, I stick to the speed limit because someone may have already paid with their life.

 

I try and stick to speed limits and I think drivers who deliberately exceed speed limits or think they should 'get away with it' are selfish idiots

I would agree KFC and we have the same issue in our village, about to put speed humps in all down the high street. I do not normally like these but in this case they will work a treat.

 

I will not speed in built up areas but confess to sitting between 80-85 on the motorway. Hypocritical I know and speeding is speeding..

[overandunder2012]

my cousin has just got caught doing 91 in a 30 on his gsxr1000,think he will be getting a ban.

he's done for

[shoot and be safe]

Just a precautionary tale of my brush with the law.

 

Having had a clean licence for the last 22 years of breaking most speed limits, I've just had 3 points and a £60.00 fine for doing 47 in a 30. My speed was increasing to join the 50 limit only 50 yards ahead, so that's my excuse.

 

Now, I accept full responsibility for the offence, but the one thing I didn't realise is that speed camera vans can do you going away from them, on the opposite side of a dual carriageway.

 

Hay hoe, time to start blaming the cash strapped police force, for profiteering!!

 

Be warned!!!!!

Congratulations on 22 years point free driving

 

 

I think that it's the case that flashing cars approaching a speed trap can lead to you being done for obstruction of an officer in the execution of his duties.

 

J.

This is true, I know from experience . I flashed a car coming towards me and hadn't seen the cop car further up the road. PC Plod wanted to give me a £80 on the spot fine, but didn't like the way I was answering his questions (they don't like it when you give one word answers). So I ended up with a police caution which only stays on police record for 6 months, doesn't show up against a CRB check and no fine to be paid This took place over 3 years ago and I have had my SGC renewal since and no mention of it. I have asked other police officers about it and they said it is taken off record after 6 months. However I wouldn't trust it as gospel

 

Just been done for not stopping at a red light, in a fully loaded artic, in the rain.

 

Next time I'll slam the anchors on last minute and jack knife it in the middle of the road

Can I ask

• What was the speed limit for the road and what speed were you doing?
• How much time/distance did you have to react?
• Did you make any attempt to stop?
• Were you caught by a trafic cop or off a camera?

Remember you are in charge of a vehicle over 60' long weighing anything upto 44,000kg (unless you are on heavy haulage).

 

There are a lot of variables for mitigation, however only you know if you could of stopped in time.

 

Out of curiosty, is it still £60 and 3 ponts for running a red light?

[Mungler]

Gotta love the system- In the last 5 years I have been burgled and had nearly a grands worth of tools nicked, 3 years ago my Caravan was stolen then last month some low life cut the Cat off my Shogun (about £700 to replace). The police have not bothered to solve any of these crimes and then last week I got a ticket for doing 2mph over the limit (35 in a 30). I think that, if it were possible, they offered me the option of removing my contribution to the police that is included in my council tax, in return I would not call the police or rely on their help, I would tick the box.

 

And that is why the traffic division of the police should be stripped out from the police and re-named "traffic enforcement, penalties and collections".

 

If your only ever encounter with the police as a law abiding citizen is entirely negative then the police lose support from the back bone that ought to be supporting them.

 

20 years ago I got stopped in London by the met - accidentally speeding and went through a red light at about 1 a.m. on the way to picking my mum and dad up. I passed the 10 second respect test, was entirely honest, didn't BS them and they clearly had something better to be doing - so quick civilised chat and I was on my way with a warning. It's not that I escaped punishment or because I "got off" that made me have respect for those officers but it was the way they dealt with me was proportionate to all circumstances - there were no cars on the road, I was sorry, they actually wanted to get on and catch some proper criminals and they were not tasked with hitting a fine generation / revenue collection target.

 

That just doesn't happen any more.

[Chris Bb]

Must remember to come to Hampshire for a blast on the bike then LOL

There are bikers who do just that on a regular basis. Until, that is, they get too regular and one morning there's a bunch of plod waiting for them!

[Brown Sauce]

Did I see somewhere recently, that police officers are awarded credit points of a monetary value for any offence they write up. Might've dreamt this, but it would explain the change in leniency??

[al4x]

 

And that is why the traffic division of the police should be stripped out from the police and re-named "traffic enforcement, penalties and collections".

 

If your only ever encounter with the police as a law abiding citizen is entirely negative then the police lose support from the back bone that ought to be supporting them.

 

20 years ago I got stopped in London by the met - accidentally speeding and went through a red light at about 1 a.m. on the way to picking my mum and dad up. I passed the 10 second respect test, was entirely honest, didn't BS them and they clearly had something better to be doing - so quick civilised chat and I was on my way with a warning. It's not that I escaped punishment or because I "got off" that made me have respect for those officers but it was the way they dealt with me was proportionate to all circumstances - there were no cars on the road, I was sorry, they actually wanted to get on and catch some proper criminals and they were not tasked with hitting a fine generation / revenue collection target.

 

That just doesn't happen any more.

 

I had a driver stopped last week for being on the phone by the met, he passed the attitude test so was given the option of a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt (he was actually wearing one) which was a fine or he could have the mobile phone one of fine plus points.

 

I thought that was fair and he deserved it for being a pillock on the phone