Whytie2697 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I will be on holiday just after the season starts so will be able to get a bit further away to get some steel shot I was wondering what cartridge and choke combinations people would recommend for a beretta al391 urika for ducks and geese any advice is much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2681 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I use Super steel (I think they are game bore) #4 on ducks over decoys. I have a box of remington 3.5" BB for geese. I find that my gun (b425 waterfowl) holds a good pattern and use 1/4 & open or 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I also use Gamebore Supersteel 4's.Great cartridge in my opinon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whytie2697 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I hear a lot if people like the gamebore super steel will have to make the trip Nd go and get some I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 hull solway fe4 worked well on ducks for me last year through half choke. clean kills at 40/50 yds. 34gms 3". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowlingmad Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Game bore steel #4 were sold out in the shop I normally get carts from... Must be a reason! I used them on ducks last season, they patterned very well and I got the results on the marsh where it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geth25182889 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 i use half choke in my benelli with gambore 36g 3in #3 for duck and 42g 3.5in #1 & bb for geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I used game bore mammoth no 3's through 1/2 choke in my urika. 'twas lethal !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I agree Gamebore are the best quarter or half choke 4s for duck 3s for geese and 5s for pigeon yes thats right pigeon I like steel so much I use it all the time, the only problem with it is the thick plastic wads laying about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't use steel if I was paid to, have seen too many cripples from it. Maybe it should be banned to on a lack of lethality basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadorna Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't use steel if I was paid to, have seen too many cripples from it. Maybe it should be banned to on a lack of lethality basis? Seen cripples with lead too. Steel works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Gambore super steel 4's for me 1/4 choke over splashes and 1/2 kicks high flyer choke on the tides for duck. Hit them good and you wont get many cripples. Try and get your eye in with them on the clays or new glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't use steel if I was paid to, have seen too many cripples from it. Maybe it should be banned to on a lack of lethality basis? And maybe you should stop spouting such unfounded dribble, modern steel is just as good as lead. FACT. I have used it for years and have no problems, if I hit the bird in the right spot its dead, clip it and its winged just the same as any shot. Your unlikely to ever get paid for using it so not a problem eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Wouldn't use steel if I was paid to, have seen too many cripples from it. Maybe it should be banned to on a lack of lethality basis? There by talks someone who does knot how to use steel cartridges. Steel will do the job fine as long as you use the right shot size , the correct load for the job and the right choke. What steel wil not do is to fluke birds down well beyond normal range as lead will sometimes do. A 40 gr load of steel BB or BBB will kill pinks using the right choke at 50 yards with no trouble if you have the skill to put the shot in the right place. Edited August 5, 2013 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't use steel if I was paid to, have seen too many cripples from it. Maybe it should be banned to on a lack of lethality basis? At a BASC wildfowling conference just before the lead shot ban, one of the speakers(DTI, I think), said that the increase in the number of cripples was a concern. Our local BlackBacks seem to be well fed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 At a BASC wildfowling conference just before the lead shot ban, one of the speakers(DTI, I think), said that the increase in the number of cripples was a concern. Our local BlackBacks seem to be well fed. And how long ago was the lead ban ?, it must be over 10 years. Things have moved on, Nothing wrong with steel, I have nothing against lead but all the bad mouthing of steel is pure rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 At a BASC wildfowling conference just before the lead shot ban, one of the speakers(DTI, I think), said that the increase in the number of cripples was a concern. Our local BlackBacks seem to be well fed.Steel loads have moved on a great deal since the early days. I have no problem with using it seeing no more wounded birds than I did when using lead. Being forced to use it however is a different matter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 And how long ago was the lead ban ?, it must be over 10 years. Things have moved on, Nothing wrong with steel, The chap was using knowledge of what had happened in America, where steel had already been used for some time. Shotgun borings were based on lead shot. I just don't fancy poking larger volumes of shot out of convential bores, so I use 12 bore Mammoths in the 10 bore with gauge-mates. 1's seem more affective than 3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 The chap was using knowledge of what had happened in America, where steel had already been used for some time. Shotgun borings were based on lead shot. I just don't fancy poking larger volumes of shot out of convential bores, so I use 12 bore Mammoths in the 10 bore with gauge-mates. 1's seem more affective than 3's. Its still old research bud, I happily put 3.5" through my gun with absolutely no issues and with tight chokes(made for steel), not sure what your 10b is and how you use it is your choice. Have a good season fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 at the end ov the day its the fella behind the trigger not the steel..if ya a s..t shot then theres ya answer!! we all have off days just gotta na were to hit hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Its still old research bud, It was at the same conference that Dr John said he couldn't tell the difference between shooting steel and lead. Before 'things moved on'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 It's not the steel it's 1) being able to track down a shop that actually has the load you want and 2) being able to track down a shop that actually has the load you want at a SENSIBLE price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I used game bore mammoth no 3's through 1/2 choke in my urika. 'twas lethal !! +1 Deff the right choice: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2681 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 wildfowler .250 has agood point thats well i've started reloading. I had to travel from Poole to swindon to get some 3.5 BB. Having said that solway Fe3 34g, Super steel 32 and rem 1 3/8Oz all get cartridges IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 When all these super steel cartridges become as cheap as lead cartridges, will people choose to use them for pigeons, pheasants, rabbits and hares etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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