The Essex Hunter Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Well they like a bit of sport...Min 2.00 is the best bit!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmtkg7ofzi8 TEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Jesus , and the antis want to ban shooting over here !!! Mind you its given me a great idea for the fens first high bird shoot , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireboy Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 what a load of ***** thats a crime clay pigoen shooting with live birds :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 That is all pretty revolting. Many years ago I was 'head hunted' to run the 'sporting' side of a Gentleman's Club in one of the New England States. This club was for 'old money' and it was out in some of the best countryside imaginable. The club house was very plush and the members generally arrived by helicopter. Shooting was the most popular passtime by far. When I arrived I asked to see a 'game shoot' in action and I was driven down to the river where there were several guns lined out along the river. Three hundred yards up river I saw a huge ramp up which mallard were being herded before finally being pushed off the top. Many simply plummeted into the water, others that flew were unceremoniously shot down. When I got back to the Club I simply packed my bags, told the Chairman that I was appalled to see the 'game shoot' in action, and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Speechless but surprised.......no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 70 yards? They could get them a lot higher if they used a trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Isn't there antis over there That ain't sport !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 hi birds ye and i suppose you don't loose any wandering off as poults,but as said its just not right, but thats the yanks for ya,atb simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 They should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Someone say 'sport'? Not even remotely. Try googling 'soar no more' videos, at least those birds arrive by their own choice but sheer carnage, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagantino Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Are all the birds " launched " by hand? Are none driven up? I'm not into knocking the American Way but the guy throwing birds must be exhausted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 idiots...in high viz!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Meh seem just as bad over here just swap the hi vis for tweed and semi for sbs. Many a hypocrite on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 yanks started it in 1825. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Meh seem just as bad over here just swap the hi vis for tweed and semi for sbs. Many a hypocrite on this forum Surely nothing as unsporting would go on in the uk, or am I wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Meh seem just as bad over here just swap the hi vis for tweed and semi for sbs. Many a hypocrite on this forum very true , it certainly doesn't look nice but the outcome of the birds are just the same as on a driven shoot in the uk and that's the main concern of the antis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 What a disgraceful scene, you really have to wonder about the mindset of someone who delights in taking part in this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 So.. Breeding pheasant and then releasing them into a known area when they are mature, then getting a load of people and dogs to force them Ito the air to be shot for fun Vs Breeding pheasant and then releasing them into the air to be shot for fun....... Personally, I can't see much difference other than the American way misses a step out! Bit of hipocrasy going on here me thinks! Don't have any issue at all with pheasant shooting but not my bag, however, criticising someone else's methods, when the process is in effect the same.. I.e. breeding animals with the sole intention of shooting them for fun, is a bit rich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Understood, but it's just not cricket. Just miss out another step, shoot them in the crates? So.. Breeding pheasant and then releasing them into a known area when they are mature, then getting a load of people and dogs to force them Ito the air to be shot for funVsBreeding pheasant and then releasing them into the air to be shot for fun.......Personally, I can't see much difference other than the American way misses a step out!Bit of hipocrasy going on here me thinks!Don't have any issue at all with pheasant shooting but not my bag, however, criticising someone else's methods, when the process is in effect the same.. I.e. breeding animals with the sole intention of shooting them for fun, is a bit rich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Understood, but it's just not cricket. Just miss out another step, shoot them in the crates? At the end of the day we are not discussing cricket.. The abhorrent part is bringing a living creature into the world for the sole purpose of then killing it for fun... Frankly, at that point, the method employed to put the birds in front of a gun is irrelevant. Edited October 21, 2013 by Vipa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Meh seem just as bad over here just swap the hi vis for tweed and semi for sbs. Many a hypocrite on this forum See your point, not seen anything like that though. I have heard of partridges being released on shoot days but never out of a crate and thrown in the air. It would produce some higher birds of our little syndicate not sure we could get a cherry picker through the wood though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 So.. Breeding pheasant and then releasing them into a known area when they are mature, then getting a load of people and dogs to force them Ito the air to be shot for fun Vs Breeding pheasant and then releasing them into the air to be shot for fun....... Personally, I can't see much difference other than the American way misses a step out! Bit of hipocrasy going on here me thinks! Don't have any issue at all with pheasant shooting but not my bag, however, criticising someone else's methods, when the process is in effect the same.. I.e. breeding animals with the sole intention of shooting them for fun, is a bit rich! +1, i have the same views on this as you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) It's not even remotely the same as pheasant / game shooting in this country, a pretty big step is being missed in that video. Pretty big point being missed too by anyone who can't see the difference or understand the repulsion of people who themselves shoot ! They are hurling pheasants up into the air by hand over waiting guns with multi capacity shot guns . Edited October 21, 2013 by Hamster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 This is disgusting. I can agree there are some parallels between this and a driven shoot here, but the big difference for me is the amount of stress the birds are put through (which equates to cruelty in my book). Here, the pheasant thinks "what's the noise, oh dear, there's a dog coming I better leg it, oh, he is still coming I will fly off" and the possibly the bird gets shot if he chooses the wrong direction to fly and if the there is a capable gun. There, the birds are caged and therefore stressed and then they are unceremoniously released or worse, thrown towards the waiting guns. This must carry a lot more stress and discomfort and therefore in my book is much much worse than the British way. I am not the biggest fan of driven shoots, I would rather work for my quarry, but there is a clear difference in welfare either side of the Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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