team tractor Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 On my ticket I've got a 22rf slot which is filled with an lr currently but could I have a WMR on this slot as it says 22rf Even my feo needs to look it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 technically yes, but check with the fld, not just your feo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I did, when I had one some years ago. Applied for a .22rf and bought a .22 mag; its still a rf. if your licence states rf then you're ok; if it states lr then you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I understand some police forces get uppity about it some are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 My FLO says no. One is .22 rimfire the other is .22 magnum rimfire. Different chambers. I know that some forces have allowed it though so I would check. An RFD may not be willing to supply magnum rimfire on a rimfire slot either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hmr is rimfire tho . Next question then. Magnum and WMR are advertised as separate calibers??? I thought they were the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Hmr is rimfire tho . Next question then. Magnum and WMR are advertised as separate calibers??? I thought they were the same Magnum isn't a calibre, it's a cartridge designation. HMR is Hornady Magnum Rimfire, WMR is WInchester Magnum Rimfire. Either cartridge manufacturers could make a .17rf or .22rf, but up to pres' Hornady make the .17 and Winchester the .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 west mercia state mine as a .22rf as they didnt know or understand what a .22lr was? not sure if they would allow me to purchase a .22wmr though. Not sure if my local RFD's would even sell to me unless it stated it. I have heard a similer thing where people have purchased 6mm when they've had .243 on there FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 On my ticket I've got a 22rf slot which is filled with an lr currently but could I have a WMR on this slot as it says 22rf Even my feo needs to look it up Yes, you can. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) My FLO says no. One is .22 rimfire the other is .22 magnum rimfire. Different chambers. I know that some forces have allowed it though so I would check. An RFD may not be willing to supply magnum rimfire on a rimfire slot either. It's not a matter of forces 'allowing it'. Your cert is a legal document authorising you to acquire certain things. If it says that you can acquire a .22rf then you can acquire a .22rf. There is no logic whereby the wording '.22rf' can mean 'only certain .22rf's which you have to guess at'. I mean, there is .22 Short, .22 Long, .22 Long Rifle, .22 WMR, .22 Win and several other more obscure ones. If they want to restrict you to .22LR then that is what your cert should say. How can there be an offence comitted if you buy a .22 WMR on a slot which says .22rf? What do they charge you or the person who sold you it with? You have not acquired anything you do not have an authority to acquire. I currently have an ancient BSA Model 12 Martini sitting next to me. It is marked 'Cartridge .220 Long Rifle'; if I sell it to someone who's FAC says '.22rf' is that illegal? J. Edited November 7, 2013 by JonathanL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Mine said .22rf picked up a 22wmr my feo said as long as it's a 22 rim fire then it's fine. Edited November 7, 2013 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Rimfire is rimfire mag or LR it doesn't matter Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 In my eyes .22rf is a.22rf. If it's lr or wmr it's still a .22rf and covered on your licence.if your licence said .22lr things would be different. You can't be responsible for sloppy paperwork, what did you put in for? .22rf or .22lr? If the former then it's your choice and if the latter it's a lr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) It would worthrunning past the BASC, see what they say Edited November 7, 2013 by simon1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Some forces are very slack I have seen once a ticket with .22 Rifle so was that rimfire or centre fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 When I first applied for my FAC I spoke with BASC about this very thing and was advised to ask for .22rf so I wasn't limiting my options to .22lr. My FAC states .22rf therefore the authority to acquire any of them as that what is written on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salizar Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I checked this out with my feo and two rfd`s and they all said if your fac states .22RF then any .22RF rifle is ok, including the magnum. I’m thinking LR is not a cartridge or bullet type just an abbreviation for long rifle and that maybe opens another can of worms. i.e. is a long rifle not just a `long` rifle. Just thinking out loud here, who is to say that maybe .22lr could include a cf as it does not state otherwise. Not suggesting anyone should try and purchase or acquire that has a .22lr slot Am I wrong? What do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 22 long rifle is a specific chambering and thus denotes a 22 rimfire chambering. Definitely not a centerfire with a long barrel. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salizar Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 22 long rifle is a specific chambering and thus denotes a 22 rimfire chambering. Definitely not a centerfire with a long barrel. Rick Thanks. just found this, http://22rifle.blogspot.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 This subject has been debated many times and the answer is always the same. .22RF is exactly that, and if the police/region/Chief Constable write .22RF on your FAC then legally there is nothing to stop you buying any .22RF. In reality some RFD will not sell you a WMR on that designation, (that is entirely up to them, they don't have to sell you anything if they don't want to), and some regions may argue they don't mean .22WMR, only LR, well that is their own dumb fault for listing it as RF then, if they wanted it specific they should have written it specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 does any one know if west mercia allow either .22lr and .22wmr as they state it as .22rf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 They did but that was 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 thanks, i will give them a call to double check. How does a .22wmr compare to a .22lr ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 BANG to bang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) i have a spare slot for .22rf bolt action(as i already have a semi auto) i was going to get another .22lr but now im having second troughts, would the .22wmr be better? but i do have a .17hmr as well? sorry for hacking your qusetion atb simon Edited November 10, 2013 by simon1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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