islandgun Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Does anyone know how long red diesel would take to work its way through the system if anyone was foolish enough to have used it in the past, if they had run short of white (for example!) hypothetically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 four years are you guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABB Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I believe the stain / dye is supposed to stick well and show for a long while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Once you run white through the filter the ed disappears so if you fill up with red because you are going to run out and a farmers sells you some and you run it out and fill up with white the trace of red will disappear once the white has gone through the filter it will remove any trace But if were to get caught using it then you would be in deep sxxxxt Edited December 29, 2013 by mark@mbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 It doesnt show up on the filters after a couple of tanks of white and a couple of filter changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYBURN Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I believe they use other chemicals in red diesel.....and heard now they can swab your exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyNCC Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Wouldn't know all mine is dark purple There's a blue die you can get off the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Its not the colouring of the dye you should be worried about its the analysed partcles that the particle detector icks up,Our company vehicles are regularly stopped by VOSA they can tank test and take a sample or they can place a particle analyzer up the exhaust pipe to detect misuse of fuel. step1 remove old filter contaminated with the dye step2 Use garage or forecourt bought fuel step3 If caught only once you will be fined,if caught again the vehicle is impounded and you will get a bigger fine 3rd time you dont want to know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 four years are you guilty Clearly not, I think the price of fore-court fuel very reasonable in fact it should be more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Its not the colouring of the dye you should be worried about its the analysed partcles that the particle detector icks up,Our company vehicles are regularly stopped by VOSA they can tank test and take a sample or they can place a particle analyzer up the exhaust pipe to detect misuse of fuel. step1 remove old filter contaminated with the dye step2 Use garage or forecourt bought fuel step3 If caught only once you will be fined,if caught again the vehicle is impounded and you will get a bigger fine 3rd time you dont want to know... Thanks for that. Do you know if these tests/anal izers are available to general police cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Thanks for that. Do you know if these tests/anal izers are available to general police cars i'm sure if you ask nicely then plod will be only too happy to anal ize you saucy boy Edited December 29, 2013 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazsl Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Don't worry about it used to run a old rover on red all the time couldn't get any for a couple of weeks so used white got pulled and they took a sample from my tank didn't find anything wrong most of its myth no staining no trace and a large amount of pumped diesel cam be bleached red but I would not condone using it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 2 tanks it'll be clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 ordinary police cars do not carry fuel testing kits VOSA wil be called if they suspect the misuse of fuel Dont worry ...you sound concerned. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 So, what would be the story if I had a Landie that was mainly used for farm work, but occasionally needed to take on the road. Could I use red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 So, what would be the story if I had a Landie that was mainly used for farm work, but occasionally needed to take on the road. Could I use red? If its registered agri and only used for a certain number of miles then yes to red i believe. If its normal tax then no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9914 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) I own a garage and we have done services in the last 12-18 months on more than a dozen cars ALL of which were running on red diesel i.e. fuel filters full of red diesel and they are not all old bangers either some worth more than 20k its not my problem so i just keep stum, quite a few of our polish friends run on red for sure Edited December 29, 2013 by shawn9914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Go on then...... Give us the whole story........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 If its registered agri and only used for a certain number of miles then yes to red i believe. If its normal tax then no! Ah, the registered bit will be the problem, oh well, back to old chip fat it is then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ah, the registered bit will be the problem, oh well, back to old chip fat it is then! you would also have to be on agricultural duties all the time and this use only no private use whatsoever, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 many years ago while still farming we had a pickup which was only used to carry hay provin etc up the farm track so we ran it on red. had a visit from customs they went round a few farms locally. when they asked what we ran pickup on told them red "you can't do that" long story short I had to show out of date insurance tax and test to prove it wasn't road legal. Basically if its been road registered it must run on white whether its road legal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudly Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 The chemical markers in red diesel is what catches people out not the dye. If you think a motor has been ran on red you need to get the fuel system flushed. If you had recently bought the car & had the receipt it shouldn't be a problem. I heard a haulage company dye their own diesel a different colour to stop it being stolen by staff, it was suggested before that this would be a way of hiding the red but again, its the markers in the diesel that are detected when a tank is dipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Go on then...... Give us the whole story........ I posted this on behalf of an ex work-mate, (bless) although he made my life a misery I have forgiven him and wish to move on. Thanks for all the great replies though, I will make sure he reads them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Passing red through fullers earth ( cat litter type stuff) removes the dye , central heating oil ................................. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Passing red through fullers earth ( cat litter type stuff) removes the dye , central heating oil ................................. :-) the "Travelling community" use this trick when they have stolen a bowser full off construction sites to sell on , obviously if its for there own use they don't give a ********* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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