pavman Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 what a breath of fresh air his prog Nigel Farage "who are you " was last nite evidently the film maker thought he would reveal the man behind the mask but concluded what you see is indeed what you get, straight talking no nonsense sticking up for the UK..... a times writer who has commentated on him for 20 years says he is not racists as others try to paint him and just voices in the open what all the others mutter behind closed doors..... gonna get my vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDCREST Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Excellent programme... He comes across as a guy who is batting for Britain and the British, as opposed to the rest of the politicians who come across as batting for themselves.... Time will tell, I just wish the rest of his group were a bit more visible..He's getting my vote anyway, It may be a wasted vote, but the rest of the politicians and their parties, need a good kick up the ****, and I think Nigel Farage is the man to do it.........As you say a Breath of Fresh Air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) The EU elections are proportional representation so it is not a wasted vote. I was one of the first members of UKIP. It has taken a long time to get where we are today. Edited April 2, 2014 by Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 The EC elections are proportional representation so it is not a wasted vote. I was one of the first members of UKIP. It has taken a long time to get where we are today. As a fellow member I've been wishing for some time that the party could present a positive case for leaving the EU rather than concentrating on the negatives of remain a member. We do not face an economic nuclear winter if we leave; quite the reverse. There is a huge amount to be optimistic about. Therefore I was very pleased to receive a copy of William Dartmouth's excellent report "Out of the EU, into the World." I assume its only been sent to Ukip members and supporters for cost purposes which is a pity. It is precisely the kind of detailed response that is needed to the scaremongering misinformation put out by the Europhile parties. Down load it here: http://www.ukip.org/out_of_the_eu_into_the_world_report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 As a fellow member I've been wishing for some time that the party could present a positive case for leaving the EU rather than concentrating on the negatives of remain a member. We do not face an economic nuclear winter if we leave; quite the reverse. There is a huge amount to be optimistic about. Therefore I was very pleased to receive a copy of William Dartmouth's excellent report "Out of the EU, into the World." I assume its only been sent to Ukip members and supporters for cost purposes which is a pity. It is precisely the kind of detailed response that is needed to the scaremongering misinformation put out by the Europhile parties. Down load it here: http://www.ukip.org/out_of_the_eu_into_the_world_report I'll have a look. This is 10 years old, it's been the best rational analysis of the situation I've been able to find and makes the same point about trade. I know I keep banging on about it but _MEXICO_ has the same trade rights with the EU as we do. http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs37.pdf Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Nigel's a decent-sounding, plausible chap. However, that does not make UKIP a political party. His old mucker, Godfrey Bloom, a former Ukip MEP who was kicked out of the party said Mr Farage was a very good “salesman” but that he should not be party leader. Of course, Godfrey would say that, bearing in mind Nigel kicked him out of the party, but the "salesman" bit rings true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Nigel's a decent-sounding, plausible chap. However, that does not make UKIP a political party. His old mucker, Godfrey Bloom, a former Ukip MEP who was kicked out of the party said Mr Farage was a very good “salesman” but that he should not be party leader. Of course, Godfrey would say that, bearing in mind Nigel kicked him out of the party, but the "salesman" bit rings true. he is doing an ever increasing excellent job of converting floating votes and euro sceptics from other parties looking for someone to better represent them. You will see the Tories trying to adopt a lot of his ideas and to present them in what they perceive a more palatable format for middle England. What they don't get is many want exactly what UKIP offer because the Brown scandal exposed that at the very top of British politics they snipe and bitch about "ordinary folk" behind closed doors because we are not smart enough to understand the big picture. Labour and the Libs will continue to push their own message and I cant see them being smart enough to make much change to their tired and trusted method base of Labour supports the working man and Liberals support the moderate left beard growing slipper wearing tree hugging accordion players who believe a jolly nice song and a cupper can cure all ailments..... I am not normally excited by Politics by Farage is stirring my blood and will be watching tonight's debate with Nick "the liar" Clegg with increasing interest and I hope Farage can best tricky Nicky who is by all accounts quite a good speaker for a man with a forked tongue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 you know what his courage to say what we all know has secured my vote. whatever the others say means nothing as they only say it to get your vote then forget you once its cast. Free university places, free vote on the hunting act (sorry there wasn't time for that) There sure was time to bring up gay marriage though wasn't there and were was that idea in the manifesto?. I have voted Tory from 18 yrs hate labour and socialism in general but lets face it when I vote I want what I was promised and non of the other three parties have given that for years now. Is it the fact that they cannot without getting it the nod from Europe first? or are they just conmen? Frankly my dears I don't give a dam. Whatever road we take out of here its going to be a hard one as a failing Europe and loosening of regulation under Labour that lead in turn to corrupt banking practices has ruined us along with the usual give away deals to the voters (who are now among the hardest hit by the essential cuts) but I seriously don't want my kids leaving school to find things even harder than when I left 30 years ago so it time to act. Even then they will inherit our nations debt for many years to come- I doubt it could be any worse I don't trust Cameron he will get more Euro sceptic just to save his own skin then transcend all his promises he makes like he is already doing. Labour will try bribery to the voter and lead us further into debt and Liberals? well the debate is only happening coz they no full well they have nothing to loose and a tiny chance of a small gain if they can trip him up(which is looking hard at present even with the Biased non representitive papers and TV trying to help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Oh My God what a bunch of blinkered sycophants...The blokes a total slime bag like the rest of his party. He's so slimy he would probably make a very good politician in another party. In life if you want to get to the top, surround yourself with the best, not the dross. "Hi Nige...got a political broadcast later...remind me... what's our manifesto today ? Speak later... love u...Paul " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxie Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Oh My God what a bunch of blinkered sycophants...The blokes a total slime bag like the rest of his party. He's so slimy he would probably make a very good politician in another party. In life if you want to get to the top, surround yourself with the best, not the dross. "Hi Nige...got a political broadcast later...remind me... what's our manifesto today ? Speak later... love u...Paul " This is Pigeon Watch,what do you expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 This is Pigeon Watch,what do you expect. Politics and Religion should be banned from the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxie Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Politics and Religion should be banned from the site. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Politics and Religion should be banned from the site. you can always decide not to take part in a thread rather than shout ban it, or does that not suit your ever so one sided agenda, stick to fishing mate.and keep voting for your trough guzzling elite. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Politics and Religion should be banned from the site. Ah, you cannot beat a good democracy....... Calling someone a slimebag is so descriptive - it tells you nothing. Sounds just like playground politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 You must admit, he knows how to throw a spanner in the works, love him or hate him he is one of the best at face to face confrontation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Ah, you cannot beat a good democracy....... Calling someone a slimebag is so descriptive - it tells you nothing. Sounds just like playground politics. It actually tells you everything, in that it really really shows that both the fluffy to the lefts and the cretinous cons are getting oh so worried about the new kid on the block,you know the one that brings something strange to the political spectrum, IE the want to represent the mainstream man in the street, rather than pander to the loud "ever so diverse" minorities that thanks to both apathy and our unwarranted loyalty to the political colour of our region allowed the swamping of parliament with people who only want to represent themselves rather than the interests of those who put them there.Hopefully Mr farrage will put a stop to that. KW Edited April 2, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 you can always decide not to take part in a thread rather than shout ban it, or does that not suit your ever so one sided agenda, stick to fishing mate.and keep voting for your trough guzzling elite. KW Such bigoted response is no less than I expect from you and illustrates perfectly the type of voter attracted by the BNP oops sorry I meant UKIP. How can you possibly say I have a one sided agenda when you and your cronies constantly post up sycophantic luvy-duvy topics about super Nige as if he's the next best thing since sliced bread and immediately castigate and vilify anyone who doesn't agree with them or the content ? You don't know me or my politics but obviously in your insecurity view me subliminally as some sort of threat to your intelligence and are now seeking fellow posters to agree with you and reinforce your opinion. I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself. It actually tells you everything, in that it really really shows that both the fluffy to the lefts and the cretinous cons are getting oh so worried about the new kid on the block,you know the one that brings something strange to the political spectrum, IE the want to represent the mainstream man in the street, rather than pander to the loud "ever so diverse" minorities that thanks to both apathy and our unwarranted loyalty to the political colour of our region allowed the swamping of parliament with people who only want to represent themselves rather than the interests of those who put them there.Hopefully Mr farrage will put a stop to that. KW Utter ******** as usual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Politics and Religion should be banned from the site. You my friend are a very sad person I will not demean myself by arguing with a fool as you are to stupid to understand. The more of see of that man Clegg the more he gets up my nose talking down to everyone as if his is the only one that nows what is rite. Edited April 2, 2014 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself. Following your earlier posts I would suggest that perhaps you follow your own advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 It actually tells you everything, in that it really really shows that both the fluffy to the lefts and the cretinous cons are getting oh so worried about the new kid on the block,you know the one that brings something strange to the political spectrum, IE the want to represent the mainstream man in the street, rather than pander to the loud "ever so diverse" minorities that thanks to both apathy and our unwarranted loyalty to the political colour of our region allowed the swamping of parliament with people who only want to represent themselves rather than the interests of those who put them there.Hopefully Mr farrage will put a stop to that. KW I can't believe that you believe a politician KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) You my friend are a very sad person I will not demean myself by arguing with a fool as you are to stupid to understan. The more of see of that man Clegg the more he gets up my nose talking down to everyone as if his is the only one that nows what is rite. Did you go to School ? Why do you assume I am a Clegg supporter. ? Edited April 2, 2014 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Such bigoted response is no less than I expect from you and illustrates perfectly the type of voter attracted by the BNP oops sorry I meant UKIP. How can you possibly say I have a one sided agenda when you and your cronies constantly post up sycophantic luvy-duvy topics about super Nige as if he's the next best thing since sliced bread and immediately castigate and vilify anyone who doesn't agree with them or the content ? You don't know me or my politics but obviously in your insecurity view me subliminally as some sort of threat to your intelligence and are now seeking fellow posters to agree with you and reinforce your opinion. I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself. Utter ******** as usual... by comparing UKIP to BNP and labeling me as a bigot (you need to look at the definition of that one ) you show yourself up for what you are, very very childish and petulant remark worthy of the contempt I give you for it. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Following your earlier posts I would suggest that perhaps you follow your own advice. No,please don't Mike. I've got a Caribbean cruise riding on you mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 by comparing UKIP to BNP and labeling me as a bigot (you need to look at the definition of that one ) you show yourself up for what you are, very very childish and petulant remark worthy of the contempt I give you for it. KW Yawn... tedious....just take your beating like a Man instead of bleating about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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