mickyh Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've been looking all over for a stainless 12 bore brush but the only ones I can find are in the USA. I'm having to wrap pan scrubber around a bronze brush to clean my odd shapped silver pigeon barrels. Nothing else will get them clean. The postage is ridiculous from America, twice the price of the article. Would anyone know where I can source one in the UK ? I'm not paying £20 for a wire brush. Thanks Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've been looking all over for a stainless 12 bore brush but the only ones I can find are in the USA. I'm having to wrap pan scrubber around a bronze brush to clean my odd shapped silver pigeon barrels. Nothing else will get them clean. The postage is ridiculous from America, twice the price of the article. Would anyone know where I can source one in the UK ? I'm not paying £20 for a wire brush. Thanks Mick. i have the same problem with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Fine wire wool wrapped around a normal brush works pretty well , may be worth givin a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Go to a Welding Supplies, Tig Welders use Them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 It will more likely damage the bores just use std steel wool (fine stuff) or change your solvent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Have you tried using a Nitro solvent ?-use a drop on a wool mop and leave for a couple of minutes then clean as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 The brush doesn't seem to touch the bore, I think its backbored so has a larger diameter just after the chamber. I must take the barrels to work and measure them. SERIOUSLY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I bet its plastic from the wads, try using acetone on a mop it should remove it, moisten the inside of the barrel around the area leave it for a while and then use your bronze brush. I certianly wouldnt use anything more than that, Beretta went to the trouble of Chroming there barrels then your doing your best to remove it, or at least damage it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Have you tried a Payne Galway brush? I use for forcing cone area. I'd avoid using stainless brush as others have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) I would have thought a beretta chamber brush would do the job. Edited April 21, 2014 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 0000 wire wool wrapped around bronze brush, use in battery drill, with Eds red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I CANNOT BELIEVE ANYONE would use steel wool for cleaning a shotgun barrel, do i need to to explain why this is a bad idea or will i just be wasting my breath and sound very insulting. Payne galway brush and better solvents should do the trick as has been said. 100% agree. Steel wool sheds lots of tiny bits that get everywhere, every one a start point for rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Any form of polish is actually mild abrasion. If solvents wont work then fine wire wool has been used for many,many years. Personally unless you dealing with a very neglected gun I cant see the need for more than better solvents. A great way to remove plas wad is soak the bore in penetrating fluid. Stainless is too hard! I credit someone with enough intellect to clean / flush out any residue of wool dust and removed crud they might produce from working parts, especially when the goal is to clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 try a 10g bronze brush in over bored barrels with a proper gun cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 try a 10g bronze brush in over bored barrels with a proper gun cleaner. Thats a good idea. I only use fibre cartridges so its not plastic. I have, and use a Payne Galway brush but it wont touch the fouling. I appreciate everyone and their dog has an opinion, but why would they make stainless brushes if they damaged the bore. Stainless is only a kind of steel, I thought Chrome was harder than steel 850-100Hv (65-70Rc)? Maybe I'm mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent52 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I have a silver pigeon & don't understand the barell abuse your contemplating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Get a bronze Turks head also known as tornado brush. Would get rid of what you got in your barrels. Can't understand the worry and nessecity to get every single spec out of the barrels. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 After reading all of the comments I'm going to get a Bronze 10 bore brush or a Beretta chamber brush. I'll see how I get on. I'm certain it's just a Diameter thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I appreciate everyone and their dog has an opinion, but why would they make stainless brushes if they damaged the bore. Stainless is only a kind of steel, I thought Chrome was harder than steel 850-100Hv (65-70Rc)? Maybe I'm mistaken. Chrome is harder than steel, and you won't wear out the chrome by a few uses of a steel brush, but the chrome layer is very thin - and though both hard and corrosion resistant, does need to be looked after. Steel will not rapidly wear chrome, but it is a lot harder than brass - or phosphor bronze - and I suspect that prolonged regular use of steel may wear away at the chrome. Gunmakers usually recommend brass or phosphor bronze (and indeed that is what Beretta themselves supply with new guns). Chrome is also resistant to corrosion, but once it starts it will get behind the chrome. Corrosion usually starts in small places where little specks of powder residue or tiny fragments of metal rest and damp is present - and once started - eats in and makes 'pits'. If a gun is mirror clean, it is much harder for corrosion to start. It can often start under fouling from lead or plastic where the burnt powder residue is trapped and tends to absorb water from the air - a bit like salt. You are right to want the gun properly clean - and I think the plan of an oversize brass brush is a good one. Also use a solvent like Youngs 303 or equivalent. Get the fouling out, and when mirror clean, simply keep a little thin film of oil from a fire brush or wool mop, and the gun will remain free from any pitting indefinitely. Once really clean, its surprisingly easy to keep clean if done after each outing. To most of us - our guns (whether £50 knockabout or Best Fine English) are an investment - if not to gain huge value, at least to use and enjoy and kept them in good condition they will last - in many case much longer than the original owner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thank you, finally a factual and well written answer, instead of old wives tales. I've yet to see a damaged barrel from cleaning even when working in a Gunshop ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 You can lead a horse to water - as they say. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 You can lead a horse to water - as they say. Good luck. And the Horse has now had a good drink ! Shot 50 sporting this morning, used my new 10 bore brush and its worked a treat, clean barrels with no chance of damage or bits dropping off inside the gun. 10 bore brush went in surprisingly easily and was not tight. Result ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy1146 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) I have both a steel tornado brush and a regular stainless brush. Didn't find either of them to work that much better than a regular brush. Maybe my barrels are never that dirty! Just get a bronze brush and stick it in the electric drill with some good solvent Edited May 1, 2014 by timmy1146 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Wouldn't touch a stainless brush personally. I use shooters choice bore solvent for shotguns and it works really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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