deershooter Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 FEO's use there own cars and claim mileage at 40p per mile once they reach 18000 miles this drops to 18p per mile he is probably conserving mileage Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think we will all be interested to hear what went on as this could be a money-saving thing for first timers. A bit intimidating however if you are young or have kept well clear of the boys in blue throughout your life. I suspect however this is just a local thing and possibly linked to backlogs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Only heard of this once,Durham did it to someone I dont know(friend of a friend).But he had been in trouble in the past, dont know if he got granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's strange, if you have no history, and no medical issues they can't refuse you, so it would be a waste of time. Maybe make sense on borderline applications , or ones they know they will fail as no wasted trip. Anyone in your family got a bad past? Anyone in the household? You have any brothers that are known to police? Iv seen it once with twins, one good one bad lol. The good one had to go through hoops to get sgc as they logged offenses on both records as they may have been lying about ID! Got it after 2 years of proving it was all his brother!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The op has probably got the same name as some local crim, his real identity will only be established once his pants have been pulled down and he's had an internal. So, look forward to that as it's all part of the service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy789 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's strange, if you have no history, and no medical issues they can't refuse you, so it would be a waste of time. Maybe make sense on borderline applications , or ones they know they will fail as no wasted trip. Anyone in your family got a bad past? Anyone in the household? You have any brothers that are known to police? Iv seen it once with twins, one good one bad lol. The good one had to go through hoops to get sgc as they logged offenses on both records as they may have been lying about ID! Got it after 2 years of proving it was all his brother!! My brother has had a few run ins with the boys in blue. We're like polar opposites, i'm the goody two shoes he's the black sheep. I haven't seen my brother for a few years now though and I obviously live in my own household away from him. That was my other thought that maybe I've been mistaken for the local crim who has a list as long as your arm of offences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Well I rang the police and apparently its a suitability interview and that the home visit comes later. All procedure so they say. Matt I really implore you to ring your shooting organisation and run this past them. This is not a standard procedure and at a time when they are supposed to be streamlining their procedures and implementing e commerce to mitigate licensing costs this is just adding another unnecessary bureaucratic hurdle for the applicant to jump. Attending interviews at the police station is not part of the Home Office/ACPO procedural guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy789 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I really implore you to ring your shooting organisation and run this past them. This is not a standard procedure and at a time when they are supposed to be streamlining their procedures and implementing e commerce to mitigate licensing costs this is just adding another unnecessary bureaucratic hurdle for the applicant to jump. Attending interviews at the police station is not part of the Home Office/ACPO procedural guidelines. Who would you recommend to ring? Im new to this so not part of any shooting organisation. I have air rifles but again not a member of any organisations. Sorry to sound nieve. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Join BASC NOW. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Webber is right join BASC they are very good with advise on what to do,it may save you a lot of hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 My brother has had a few run ins with the boys in blue. We're like polar opposites, i'm the goody two shoes he's the black sheep. I haven't seen my brother for a few years now though and I obviously live in my own household away from him. That was my other thought that maybe I've been mistaken for the local crim who has a list as long as your arm of offences! Without going into great detail, it don't get a lot worse than my brother (who has the same initial and has in the past used my ID) but its never created issues with any of my licences and I haven't seen him for about 20 years now. None the less it has once come up as an issue for security clearance on a higher level thing work wise years back. I should join BASC today if I was you there is so much more they can do for you and our sport than help with this issue and no insurance means no shooting on so many venues these days and I suppose rightly so ( I wont take anyone out who isn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Mm my flo tieing me up and having her wicked way with me yes please. ... What do you recon red beard Your spot on there duck...........what time does she wanft me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) FEO's use there own cars and claim mileage at 40p per mile once they reach 18000 miles this drops to 18p per mile he is probably conserving mileage Deershooter Used to be 45p for first 10k then 20p after that ........ When did change? To the OP, join BASC and ask them never heard if this, may be a simple case like so one of same name and DOB has a past, I think from march the membership also covered an amount of legal insurance Edited April 24, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Used to be 45p for first 10k then 20p after that ........ When did change? To the OP, join BASC and ask them never heard if this, may be a simple case like so one of same name and DOB has a past, I think from march the membership also covered an amount of legal insurance It's the recommended HMRC rates, now 25p for the balance after the first 10k. Your employer can pay you more or less than this. Less and you can claim relief on the difference at whatever level you pay tax. i.e if you get a flat rate of 0.25p per mile and are a 40% tax payer, for the first 10k you can claim 40% of the 20p difference. If you get a flat rate of say 60p a mile then you are taxed on it as if it were earned income. Edited April 24, 2014 by keg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogcal Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I reckon that with Nottingham being the gun crime capital of the UK, the FEO is afraid to step outside of the copshop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I had this back in the early 90s I was only 16 at the time and the boss wasn't happy with me having a shotgun certificate even though my dad had one 20 years. We were called to the local police station and He said I could not be trusted because of my age I was a danger so he wouldn't approve my licence. My dad wasn't having any of it and in the end guy said only way he would ok the grant is if we get a written permission slip from a land owner. Got the signed permission sent to the firearms and my certificate was issued. Edited April 24, 2014 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 my brother is well known to police ,been inside 4 times ,see him most days work together. have had sgc and fac for twenty five years ,never been a problem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 You do need to join a shooting organisation, if only for the insurance. BASC is but one. Do a bit of research and join the one that suits you best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Used to be 45p for first 10k then 20p after that ........ When did change? To the OP, join BASC and ask them never heard if this, may be a simple case like so one of same name and DOB has a past, I think from march the membership also covered an amount of legal insurance Lincolnshire is run by G4S that's the figures me Feo told me before he retired last year Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I really implore you to ring your shooting organisation and run this past them. This is not a standard procedure and at a time when they are supposed to be streamlining their procedures and implementing e commerce to mitigate licensing costs this is just adding another unnecessary bureaucratic hurdle for the applicant to jump. Attending interviews at the police station is not part of the Home Office/ACPO procedural guidelines. YES. This is just another stunt to get the applicant to jump another hurdle. Ring the firearms manager and ask why they are asking you to attend this meeting. Also ask if they are going to compenate you for travel to the station and for your lost earnings for the total time that you have to take off work. I bet they will change their minds on this (Make the rules up as you go along) thing. Why should you have to join basc to get advice? If my experience of them is what you get all they'll say is "Its a bit of a grey area. Be a good fellow and go along to the station and don't rock the boat". Useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Morning All, This does seem unusual, certainly most authorities would come to you and the FEO would have a chat in your home, ask you a few questions about your shooting, go over any points in your application, check your security arrangements etc. There is no need for two interviews. This is a good example of the police adding extra levels of administration to the application process and then bleating on that its costing them more money to administer applications and renewals! Someone earlier mentioned being interviewed under caution, BASC's advice is never to accept a caution without legal representation, remember a caution is an admission of guilt, and such an admission could be used as a reason to refuse grant or renewal. I would certainly recommend you joining a shooting organisation, everyone who goes shooting should be a member of one and info about the BASC membership package is here: http://basc.org.uk/join-basc/ any questions, please ask. Best wishes David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 David there is a big difference between accepting a "Caution" and being "Interviewed under Caution". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Agreed , and I fully accept that if you are asked to give an interview under caution it does not mean that you have done anything wrong, where as accepting a caution is an admission of guilt. But its my understanding that interviews under caution are typically only implemented if the police think an offence has been committed. If this is the case than I believe they are legally bound to tell you of your legal rights, such as the right to legal representation. These interviews are taped and could then be used as evidence. However, I don't think that this is what's happening in this case, it just seem the police are simply adding yet another administrative layer on the application process.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaeli Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Your spot on there duck...........what time does she wanft me! I wonder if you have the same FEO as me and are thinking of the same person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaeli Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Now when first reading this thread i though it was a friend of mine posting. Im in nottingham and so is my friend. I have SGC (2 years ago) and FAC (1 year ago) with only home visits etc but a friend of mine applied for his SGC about a month ago and he got asked to go to the police station for an inverview only last week. so wonder if its a new thing in notts. Hope all goes well. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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