rich1985 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 If you catch a few get em in the freezer as fast as possible and don't let the sun get on them while on the beach, cover them with a damp tea towel or similar, better still take a disposable BBQ with you and eat them on the beach! Taking the rubbish home of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanjipete Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 if mackeral die after you touch them why after several hours livebaiting with them are they so active ,i feather them up take them off the hook them put them on my livebait setup they dont die ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 if mackeral die after you touch them why after several hours livebaiting with them are they so active ,i feather them up take them off the hook them put them on my livebait setup they dont die ?? +1 I do the same,but I've heard it said a few times before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I cant wait until they arrive at strangford lough we get pretty good bags of them on the feather jigs and spinners from the shore they will show end of this month hope fully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 if mackeral die after you touch them why after several hours livebaiting with them are they so active ,i feather them up take them off the hook them put them on my livebait setup they dont die ?? l see where you're coming from squire, but catergorically they do ... l wont bore you mate, life is to short. But there is actual marine research, documenting their finding ... handle a Mackeral and release and its deado .... tightlines mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 l see where you're coming from squire, but catergorically they do ... l wont bore you mate, life is to short. But there is actual marine research, documenting their finding ... handle a Mackeral and release and its deado .... tightlines mate please bore us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Wont go into it personally "lve nicked a bit of a write up for you, these are their opinions, though lve known it for over 30 years and lve fished longer than that ... so if you care to peruse at your leisure, feel free ... cheers You are quite correct, and you've come to the right people! In the late 1970s we carried out several experiments to try to find out why dead mackerel were being found in vast numbers in the SW, co-incident with the purse seine and trawl winter fishery. The short answer is that the fish died due to skin damage interfering with their ability to maintain osmotic balance, and the skin damage was due to abrasion between crowded fish in the nets. We found that mackerel caught on barbless hooks and never handled, just dropped into keep tanks or nets, survived quite well if allowed to swim freely, but holding a mackerel caused enough damage to eventually kill it, sometimes two days later. So, when anglers have caught enough mackerel for a fry or for bait, they should stop fishing for them unless they are using barbless hooks and can return the fish to the water without touching them. Mike P. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: The Minimum Landing Size for mackerel is 30cm in the North Sea (that includes quite a bit of the area that anglers may regard as The Channel) and 20cm elsewhere. It is illegal to retain fish under these sizes eg being used as livebait, and Fisheries Officers will take action if you are found in possession of undersized fish of any species. (See list of Minimum Landing Sizes at:http://www.nfsa.org...._sizes_2002.htm Note that higher local MLS may apply for some specie (ie bass), so check with you local Sea Fisheries Committee if in doubt) " The thread also did a bit of maths - imagine 200 feather chuckers catching 200 fish a day, thats 40,000 fish a day that will suffer damage or death Edited June 12, 2014 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 More ripping reads ... There is a scientific paper available should you wish to look further into it, needs a search on google likely as not ... all l need to know is, touch with your hand and they are finished.... tightlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thanks for this hoggysreels. I didn't realise this was for general anglers as such, I always thought it was just for commercial fishing. Another lesson learnt. Note: The Minimum Landing Size for mackerel is 30cm in the North Sea (that includes quite a bit of the area that anglers may regard as The Channel) and 20cm elsewhere. It is illegal to retain fish under these sizes eg being used as livebait, and Fisheries Officers will take action if you are found in possession of undersized fish of any species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I seldom touch fish taken on feathers, i just take hold of the hook shank, hold the hook upside down and then quickly jerk the hook up with a bit of practice the unwanted fish drops off back into the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) for smart *** .. i put an question mark at the end of my post , wondering ?,so dont try to humilate me cocky **** You are an angry naughty little sausage ... chill out squire ... the number on your sole is your shoe size, not your IQ Edited June 13, 2014 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 There is no question...handling mackerel will kill them...scientific fact. No need for arguments chaps...go fishing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Plus one I am just had a small bass so evening looks promising All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Plus one I am just had a small bass so evening looks promising All the best Of Where you fishing? I was going to go to Devon for the weekend to target bass on the fly / lures...instead I am stripping wallpaper and decorating :( not sure how that happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Was going to say in the sea 😗😗😗😀 South coast Solent area Daren't be more precise or there will be a hundred here tomorrow I only use worm for bait To mean to buy lures Best of luck with your wallpaper All the best Of 2now hope the bigger ones come as it gets dark Edited June 13, 2014 by Old farrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I'm just waiting for my grandfather to give me the nod on the mackerel, I'll be hitting mackerel rock near bull bay (Anglesey)as soon as he phones me, he spends the summer down at his van on the island Nowt better than fresh mackerel, it's damn good raw too, Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Nowt better than fresh mackerel, it's damn good raw too, Totally agree I only live 10mins from my mackerel spot. So often pop out on my bike with my spinning rod then if I catch a fish I pop home fillet and skin it cut it in strips and have it with Ancona sweet chilli dipping sauce. Raw super fresh fish not even out the sea for 30mins before its in my belly fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyra608 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Was going to say in the sea South coast Solent area Daren't be more precise or there will be a hundred here tomorrow I only use worm for bait To mean to buy lures Best of luck with your wallpaper All the best Of 2now hope the bigger ones come as it gets dark Only a baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 cheers hog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Only a baby As most of them were and that's why I put them all back But still a good sighn that there a few fish about And the picture of yours that you caught last night is ? 😀😀 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) Thanks all, currently searching for a suitably travel rod to slip the car to take to Cornwall Where abouts in Cornwall? We've had mackerel for months down on/around the lizard peninsula, the bass are also in (dont think they ever left), we've also got codling coming up the estuary's and mummy and daddy cod out in the open. And my favourite are back early too, Gilt-head Bream being reported up all the estuary's/rivers, we've had some crackers already, great sport and taste great. My boats in the water this weekend so many a fishing adventure on the horizon. Edited June 14, 2014 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Sounds great! We will be in the portscatho area, have ordered a nice 12ft 5piece rod to chuck in the car, and will get some feathers at some point. Cant wait to give it a go. Looking forward to giving it a go when back in Norfolk as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Totally agree I only live 10mins from my mackerel spot. So often pop out on my bike with my spinning rod then if I catch a fish I pop home fillet and skin it cut it in strips and have it with Ancona sweet chilli dipping sauce. Raw super fresh fish not even out the sea for 30mins before its in my belly fantastic Your the same as me only I live closer to the sea I only live 100 yards away well Strangford lough but still good fishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) Sounds great! We will be in the portscatho area, have ordered a nice 12ft 5piece rod to chuck in the car, and will get some feathers at some point. Cant wait to give it a go. Looking forward to giving it a go when back in Norfolk as well Theres some cracking spots around portscatho, could even try for mullet, bream and bass up the Fal estuary. Get there for low tide and you can dig fresh lug for bait....peeler crabs under the weed too Edited June 14, 2014 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Look for the seagulls, terns and gannets ... they will find the whitebait shoals .. and you will have found the mackeral shoal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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