loriusgarrulus Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lots of nice well socialised staffys about. Met a few good ones at dog training classes. Shame its the ones that don,t bother socialising and training or use for fighting that give them a bad name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 steve i was in a similar situation scaring off with shotgun seemed to work short term, get whatever authorities involved you can that is why they get paid, let them find the owner and let them prosecute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Best off seeking legal advice off a good source and keeping this sort of subject off open forums . The less people know the better, many dogs vanish and after a while people stop looking and forget about them. Shoot the wrong persons dog and let them know you've done it or even threaten to do it and you or said farmer could have a lot of hassle for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 We shot one on the farm some years ago, shotgun, tried to call it off, no owners nearby, killed a ewe and 2 lambs. Carried it back, kept it for 2 days then burnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 one dog was shot out of a pair that were caught attacking livestock in my village area last year now. landowner put one down humanly as possible and not heard a peep about it since. Landowner had to act in that instance to protect his livestock. Fair dinkum. Wont mention dog breed but is was a biggun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Make sure you are completely conversant with the law on shooting dogs. Remember that the law does not give you the absolute right to shoot a dog, rather it gives you a defense should the owner take civil action against you for damages. Neither the police nor your FEO can authorise you to shoot a dog. As others have said, make sure your rifle is so conditioned. Because if it does end up in court, which it could quite easily do, the prosecution will, sure as God made little apples, question the fact. As a sheep farmer, my advice to recreational shooters is always the same, walk away from such requests.........it can only end in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 When all said and done it would be better to shoot the dogs owner who is allowing them to worry sheep. Otherwise they will only go and get some more dogs and the problem starts again. And for a while I thought that it must either be a small slurry pit or that you were going soft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 And for a while I thought that it must either be a small slurry pit or that you were going soft! No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 The law is quite clear in respect of the process, it must be reported to the police within 24hours. I have been asked to do it but didn't. Problem was solved another way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I was once asked to shoot two farm dogs by the owner that had been worrying, phoned the police no problem ,get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy bingo Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 know of a female who took her dog for a walk, it jumped a fence and started chasing sheep the farmer seen it got out off land rover with gun and shouted to her to call it back she was shouting it and it took no notice so the farmer shot it in front of her threw it over the fence got back in vehicle and drove off when she rang police they said it should be on a lead around sheep end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) BASC have leaflet that explains the laws involved with shooting dogs: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://basc.org.uk/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php%3Fid%3D42&sa=U&ei=RZY1VNiTB6uf7gaq04DIDA&ved=0CAUQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEQYyC6lc-G0kJDav20luHcx03ugw Edited October 8, 2014 by ColinF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 12 bore aaa bb job done . If you don't do it some one else will. Just clarify with feo and record conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I am honestly shocked by some of the "advice" given on this matter, while I understand the frustration farmers must feel in this situation, some of the posts are suggesting clearly illegal methods of dealing with it on an open forum, we don't need to give antis any help with destroying our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 12 bore aaa bb job done . If you don't do it some one else will. Just clarify with feo and record conversation then let somone else do it would be my advice. 12 bore aaa bb job done . If you don't do it some one else will. Just clarify with feo and record conversation then let somone else do it would be my advice. 12 bore aaa bb job done . If you don't do it some one else will. Just clarify with feo and record conversation then let somone else do it would be my advice. 12 bore aaa bb job done . If you don't do it some one else will. Just clarify with feo and record conversation then let somone else do it would be my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I am honestly shocked by some of the "advice" given on this matter, while I understand the frustration farmers must feel in this situation, some of the posts are suggesting clearly illegal methods of dealing with it on an open forum, we don't need to give antis any help with destroying our sport. Clearly illegal? Nope gone through it again and can't see what your referring to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Clearly illegal? Nope gone through it again and can't see what your referring to 1. Using a gun not conditioned for the purpose. 2. Legally you MUST inform the police within 24 hours. They are the two that leap out to me. [As an side if someone shot my dog I would throw as much **** back at them as I possibly could. Get a decent lawyer on the case - can you prove it was my dog? Do you have your rifle conditioned for that etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Update: To end this topic. I have decided not to get involved with shooting the dog/s. The farmer is going to try and trap either one of them by using a fox trap with dog food/meat inside. If a fox gets trapped, then that's an added bonus. The other option is that one of his sons will shoot the dog/s using his shotgun, if he sees them worrying his sheep. Police will be informed , even if there is no collar/name disc on the dog/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Update: To end this topic. I have decided not to get involved with shooting the dog/s. The farmer is going to try and trap either one of them by using a fox trap with dog food/meat inside. If a fox gets trapped, then that's an added bonus. The other option is that one of his sons will shoot the dog/s using his shotgun, if he sees them worrying his sheep. Police will be informed , even if there is no collar/name disc on the dog/s. Steve, I've noted your first sentence, but just to clarify one point - and I think the following is common practice in my local force - under "Additional Conditions" my FAC states, "....and use only in connection with:.......(d) the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans." Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Steve, I've noted your first sentence, but just to clarify one point - and I think the following is common practice in my local force - under "Additional Conditions" my FAC states, "....and use only in connection with:.......(d) the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans." Cheers Thanks. I'll check mine out later, and will also have a word with my friendly FEO for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks. I'll check mine out later, and will also have a word with my friendly FEO for advice. TBH, I think that you've already had the best advice - from Charlie T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 The other alternative is to run a pair of llamas with the sheep. Once a few dogs have been stomped to death the locals will learn to keep their dogs under control as the male llama will guard the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 leave well along, if the farmer wants them shot let him do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Update: To end this topic. I have decided not to get involved with shooting the dog/s. The farmer is going to try and trap either one of them by using a fox trap with dog food/meat inside. If a fox gets trapped, then that's an added bonus. The other option is that one of his sons will shoot the dog/s using his shotgun, if he sees them worrying his sheep. Police will be informed , even if there is no collar/name disc on the dog/s. The repercussions could be enormous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Update: To end this topic. I have decided not to get involved with shooting the dog/s. The farmer is going to try and trap either one of them by using a fox trap with dog food/meat inside. If a fox gets trapped, then that's an added bonus. The other option is that one of his sons will shoot the dog/s using his shotgun, if he sees them worrying his sheep. Police will be informed , even if there is no collar/name disc on the dog/s. It feels wrong to 'pass' on something like this where clearly the farmers livelihood is at stake but I am sure I would feel the need to do the same. Something has swung too far in favour of the 'public' here and a sense of responsibility as part of life in the country has disappeared - sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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