Underdog Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why are the woodies hitting the hawthorn berry so early? Are we doomed with a bad winter? No acorn here, are they all to starve? B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 stunning pics..quality post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Now there's a sight Underdog, good pic of alternative food source, well snapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Looks like a job for the rimfire, pigeons feeding on berries are said to make very good eating As said nice photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think the rape might keep them well fed this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Not seen them on the rape near me yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rooster half a dozen last night....two stuffed with berries and the other grain F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think the rape might keep them well fed this winter. Don't that give them the squits long term? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Don't that give them the squits long term? U. I asked one that very question , it didn't answer, perhaps because it was dead , so we will never know if it gives them the squits or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I asked one that very question , it didn't answer, perhaps because it was dead , so we will never know if it gives them the squits or not. Bit sharp tonight, tired are we I was informed a long time ago that too much green brassica is no good for a pigeon and when in cold weather they are forced to eat it as it is all they can peck at they suffer if the weather is frozen for a long time. Remember farmers telling me who saw the bad winters in the sixties. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Bit sharp tonight, tired are we I was informed a long time ago that too much green brassica is no good for a pigeon and when in cold weather they are forced to eat it as it is all they can peck at they suffer if the weather is frozen for a long time. Remember farmers telling me who saw the bad winters in the sixties. U. Rape surely can't do pigeons any harm, after all they usually eat it for weeks on end during winter when little else is around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Good pics UD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 A useful picture to show the feeding habits in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 We did see some on Hawthorn on Saturday and went through the scenario of a hard winter and the rape. We have so much rape around us we think that they will survive due to the fact they will drop down on any field that is not protected at that precise moment. I remember the bad winter of 1962 , I think , when I would find dead pigeons under the trees around our local allotments which had cabbage and sprouts. Some even died frozen on the branches. Mother Nature has a strange way of addressing the balance and with the glut of acorns last year and possibly three broods this year we may have a hard winter to balance it all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 A useful picture to show the feeding habits in your area. Shot this one 2 weeks ago.......... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rape surely can't do pigeons any harm, after all they usually eat it for weeks on end during winter when little else is around. Plus 1 If it does do them harm I have never heard about it before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Shot this one 2 weeks ago.......... TEH What is the green? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 What is the green? U. It spelt like rape.....but it is a little hard to tell.... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Shot this one 2 weeks ago.......... TEH Pigeon with a ready made salad! Nature has moved into convenience food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Pigeon with a ready made salad! Nature has moved into convenience foodLol. Hang on, nature is convenience food, I find it very convenient lol :-). U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Bit sharp tonight, tired are we I was informed a long time ago that too much green brassica is no good for a pigeon and when in cold weather they are forced to eat it as it is all they can peck at they suffer if the weather is frozen for a long time. Remember farmers telling me who saw the bad winters in the sixties. U. Not at all UD, I think you may have taken my razor sharp humour the wrong way. So seriousley , if it gives them the squits or not pigeon love rape , they feed on it for months and I have shot big bags on it as late as May / June when there is a number of other food sources available to them , it is not as beneficial to them protien wise and that is why they eat such vast quantities and feed from early to late digesting the crop between . So I guess they may produce more dropping given that they are eating a much bigger volume of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Not at all UD, I think you may have taken my razor sharp humour the wrong way. So seriousley , if it gives them the squits or not pigeon love rape , they feed on it for months and I have shot big bags on it as late as May / June when there is a number of other food sources available to them , it is not as beneficial to them protien wise and that is why they eat such vast quantities and feed from early to late digesting the crop between . So I guess they may produce more dropping given that they are eating a much bigger volume of food. Cool.I now they scoff a lot but I wonder how much of it is part of a balanced diet in good weather as opposed to a long period of frozen weather with nowt else. Don't matter really. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 My view is they pretty much get on it as a last resort , but once on it they seem to become pre occupied with it and often pass up other food sources to feed on it in preference . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 We have all experienced the sight of pigeons flying over a perfectly good food source to get to one which appears to give them less food value. Why for instance would pigeons fly over a barley stubble with lots of grains still available and wild pansies to get to beech mast at this time of year or in the spring fly over fresh drillings to get to ivy berries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 We have all experienced the sight of pigeons flying over a perfectly good food source to get to one which appears to give them less food value. Why for instance would pigeons fly over a barley stubble with lots of grains still available and wild pansies to get to beech mast at this time of year or in the spring fly over fresh drillings to get to ivy berries?Sprays and seed dressing ! Poison in other words! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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