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[LEFTY478]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007090519,00.html

 

Has anyone seen it? Words fail me, and for five poxy quid.

[Cranfield]

I don't know when that attack happened, but I am sure I saw those pictures in the newspaper some months ago.

[Dr W]

Sick is what it is.

 

But hey the kids won't be locked up when caught, the jails are overcrowded and probably get some community service picking up rubbish or the like.

[Lord Geordie]

They can ALWAYS find room in the Gallows for scum like this :unsure:

 

It's no wonder the prisons are full when you have mindless ministers who fail to deal with Criminals in a HARSH manner fitting the crime!

 

Hang Murderers Rapists Peadophiles granny bashers etc

 

Jail for a 5 year MINIMUM for Theft of ANY kind

 

Deport the foreign scum who break our laws REGUARDLESS of if they get tortured in their own countries. If they abided by OUR laws it wouldn't have happened.

 

I would extend Murder to Drink driving CAUSING death or Drug related driving and abolish this pathetic ( diminished responsibility ) unless it was Prescribed drugs.

 

I think reducing the privalige of Prisoners should ALSO be looked into. No TV or Games rooms. Make them work cleaning Parks repairing roads etc.

 

Feed them on the BASIC nutrition they need. Hell they do it for the FORCES so why not the Convicts :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until we get a Sentence that is befitting of the crime then you will ALWAYS have scum carrying out acts like this.

 

 

 

LG

[pin]

Spot on LG, although the increased jail times won't work because we don't have the room, I am with you all the way.

 

Punishment needs to fit the crime, but you also need to increase the detection rate. No point having a 5 year minimum sentence for theft if you only stand a 5% chance of being caught. People take risks like that every day.

 

Take your average junkie who needs say £50/day for some smack. He will still pinch regardless of the sentence, and he'll get better smack in prison.

 

Very much larger problems to solve :unsure:

[verminer]

They can ALWAYS find room in the Gallows for scum like this :unsure:

 

It's no wonder the prisons are full when you have mindless ministers who fail to deal with Criminals in a HARSH manner fitting the crime!

 

Hang Murderers Rapists Peadophiles granny bashers etc

 

Jail for a 5 year MINIMUM for Theft of ANY kind

 

Deport the foreign scum who break our laws REGUARDLESS of if they get tortured in their own countries. If they abided by OUR laws it wouldn't have happened.

 

I would extend Murder to Drink driving CAUSING death or Drug related driving and abolish this pathetic ( diminished responsibility ) unless it was Prescribed drugs.

 

I think reducing the privalige of Prisoners should ALSO be looked into. No TV or Games rooms. Make them work cleaning Parks repairing roads etc.

 

Feed them on the BASIC nutrition they need. Hell they do it for the FORCES so why not the Convicts :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until we get a Sentence that is befitting of the crime then you will ALWAYS have scum carrying out acts like this.

 

 

 

LG

here, here i could'nt agree more

[Lurch]

Can't do any of the above whilst a member state of the EU.

[Lord Geordie]

Spot on LG, although the increased jail times won't work because we don't have the room, I am with you all the way.

 

Punishment needs to fit the crime, but you also need to increase the detection rate. No point having a 5 year minimum sentence for theft if you only stand a 5% chance of being caught. People take risks like that every day.

 

Take your average junkie who needs say £50/day for some smack. He will still pinch regardless of the sentence, and he'll get better smack in prison.

 

Very much larger problems to solve

 

 

Add drug pushing to the Hanging bill and COLD turkey for the users :o

 

Lurch!

 

I couldn't agree more matey. The EU have done NOTHING but shaft this country since the Get Go :unsure:

 

LG

[henry d]

My spyware won`t let me on :unsure:

[SNAKEBITE]

I don't know when that attack happened, but I am sure I saw those pictures in the newspaper some months ago.

 

Does not matter when it happened, those sickos need dealing with. Harshly. :unsure:

[Mungler]

In Singpore there is a 95% clear up - okay the policing maybe rough and ready but the general perception is that if you commit a crime you actually expect to be caught. The flip side is that there is a very low crime rate.

 

Now, the bit I like about Singapore, is they way they deal with crime, from the bottom to the top of the scale... graffiti gets you 10 whacks with an enormous cane. Again, the net result of harsh punishments is that the level of re-offence is very low.

 

My own view is the starting point that when it comes to law an order, offences of violence go to the top of the pile and are given priority. You ask anyone on the street what they associate law and order with and it's being safe to walk the streets - not more speed cameras or daft community this that and the other initiatives.

 

Next, you make prison hard time. I work hard for my money and I have a strong work ethic. My work ethic, my responsibilities and my desire to get on makes me get out of bed. Thugs and hoodies have no accountability, no responsibility and so bump along the bottom of the pond with no direction. The answer is hard time - it doesn't have to be cracking rocks but it does have to be something. In jail they should pay for their own keep because that's what they ought to be doing on the outside in the real world - all that labour resource being paid for by my tax pounds and it (collectively) is sitting around scratching its nuts, playing Xbox360 and smoking dope.

 

Next, public caning and the stocks. "Shame" is an effective tool in law and order, the problem is, society does not recognise shame anymore - 50 years ago if you were 14 years old, looking like Vicky Pollard and up the duff and about to produce a baby scummer to drain the state indefinitely you wouldn't get money from the News of the World for an interview and you wouldn't get a day time TV slot - the shame would be too much. The shame would stop you and make you think twice.

 

Also, social security benefits should only be given to those who have a clean criminal record or a record which is free from violence, drink and drug related offences.

 

Ah, I could go on, but I have work to do and blood pressure to control.

[pavman]

Can't do any of the above whilst a member state of the EU.

 

 

sounds about right, would it differ if he was Pigmentally enriched :unsure:

[Cyber]

I agree with your 1st post LG also! Its absolutely disgusting, the amount of crimes like this.

 

I definately agree with the re-introduction of the death sentance but I don't hink that will ever happen again unfortunately (atleast all our jails would not be full and we could fill them up with mindless ******** like in the article above) :unsure: :o

[Baldrick]

Mungler, re your very valid point about the power of 'shame', I seem to recall that the same ploy has been used to great effect in India. From the reports in the British press many months ago, I believe that transvestite eunuchs were paid by the local authorities to loiter outside the homes and workplaces of known debtors, and sing loud songs about the shame of being in debt. I kid thee not.

 

Oddly enough, it worked a treat, and the debtors all paid up. Public humiliation almost always does. However if you take the case of that delightful scrote hoodie Ryan Florence, he who was photographed pretending to shoot Dave Dameroon, I'd wager that he has no concept of shame.

 

That is a shocking article in The Scum though - it makes my blood boil.

[Dr W]

Add drug pushing to the Hanging bill and COLD turkey for the users :o

 

Lurch!

 

I couldn't agree more matey. The EU have done NOTHING but shaft this country since the Get Go :unsure:

 

LG

 

According to EU law we can't make the poor drug addicts do cold turkey as it infringes their human rights and the government has to pay them thousands in compensation??? Unbelievable, the rest of the world must be laughing their socks off at us, no wonder all the criminal elements from the newly joined (eastern European countries) member states are heading this way. Might as well have a sign on the border saying come in commit crime and don't worry we won't do anything about it.

 

And don't get me started about being unable to deport foreigners who commit crimes here who we can't then deport incase they get tortured at home???

 

Agghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

 

(deep breaths, count to 10 etc)

[NorfolkBoy]

Where did we go wrong as a country that it comes to all this?

 

In my opinion blame it on a welfare state system that now supports families of literally 3 generations who do not know any different than to sign on and play the system.

 

It was probably a good idea back in 1948 - Today? I don't think so.

[digger]

In Tobago doing time in prison is how it should be = hard labour. slightly off topic I know but last year a german was caught trying to take cannabis out of the country and got nine years hard labour. Spot on

[darebear]

In Tobago doing time in prison is how it should be = hard labour. slightly off topic I know but last year a german was caught trying to take cannabis out of the country and got nine years hard labour. Spot on

 

 

 

for cannabis?

 

 

 

complete waste of resources if you ask me. there are much worse crimes which require more police man-hours to get a conviction, but due to lack of resources (being wasted on things such as weed exporters), more serious criminals are getting away.

[digger]

Darebear I agree, the point I was trying to make is they really dont mess about. Serious assault ? that will be 15 years hard labour please. Murder ? that will be the same but for life and they do mean life. None of this eligible for parole after fifteen years rubbish. The prisons are harsh and brutal and thats the way it should be.

[darebear]

Darebear I agree, the point I was trying to make is they really dont mess about. Serious assault ? that will be 15 years hard labour please. Murder ? that will be the same but for life and they do mean life. None of this eligible for parole after fifteen years rubbish. The prisons are harsh and brutal and thats the way it should be.

 

 

 

oh i see.

 

whoops?

 

[wickedandlazee]

This happened in Derby - my home town - which is rapidly going to the dogs, my brother , SPARKIE and now my mate whose a taxi driver have all been mugged and robbed in the last year.

 

If i had my way I'd lynch the lot of em no questions asked

[col s10]

all spot on but it aint going to happen guys

[SPARKIE]

yes was in the week i think been in all the papers looking for 2 white guys for a change druggys from wilson street area probly norminton and abbey street area wants a nuke dropping on the place