Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Just got back from Treetops in Newport and did a hundred birds, of which I hit 79/100. I keep the empty cartridges in the back of my vest and count them up at the end. Treetops is a sporting ground with clays of varying types and difficulties. I was just wondering what a good score would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Why do you keep the empties? And 79 is a good score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Why do you keep the empties? And 79 is a good score I don't keep them after I've counted them at the end. I just find it easier to pop them in a pocket whilst I'm shooting rather than try to keep track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 For me anything over 50% . I would take 79 any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 For me anything over 50% . I would take 79 any day of the week. Me too, I just don't get it, I'm lucky to get a 3rd, yet I'm far better at pigeon shooting. I have a mate on here (no names mentioned) who is really a crack clay shot, on the pigeon once he took a box of carts for 1 pigeon, and a buzzard flew off with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 This is the thing. I've only ever shot clays. Hoping one day to get out on the pigeons or some such. Probably fluff the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Personally I think it All depends on the ground/layout makes if difficult to gauge ability and averages . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Personally I think it All depends on the ground/layout makes if difficult to gauge ability and averages . My thoughts exactly. I wondered how difficult Treetops was. I've only ever shot there. Edited May 4, 2015 by Duckandswing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 My thoughts exactly. I wondered how difficult Treetops was. I've only ever shot there. Yes It's not a bad ground and I'm not trying to take anything away from you 79 is a sensible score . There's harder grounds and easier ones which until I started doing registered comps I couldnt get a true average/percentage and then a class .. If you shoot say once a week it's more important your happy with your shooting and not so much the score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 What does the score matter? You aren’t going to eat any of those clays so it doesn't matter how many you hit or missed. All that matters is that you enjoyed shooting and breaking the ones that you did break. Hopefully you had some good friends to shoot with and you had a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 That's a very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Do you go there regularly and shoot the same/similar layout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Compare to site averages for a sporting layout, or to competition averages, best and so on. Easier to compare skeet or DTL with regulation traps. As per fruity, really. Also as fortune says, enjoy it. Question might be 'have you peaked or are your scores still rising?' Seems like it might be better to count your 'lost' cases - fewer to pocket and count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Do you go there regularly and shoot the same/similar layout? I shoot there every weekend but they often change the layout of the traps. This weekend they introduced a new high tower, with a bird launched high and across, which was good fun. I try to always start on the same beginners stand to get relaxed but then I hop around stands dependent on what's available. Quite often leave a couple of stands out as several shoot into the sun and you soon lose site of the clay. Edited May 4, 2015 by Duckandswing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpler1991 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 average of 79 would put you in a class cpsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Ive never taken any lessons or coaching and went on a stag day clay shoot, everyone soon knew, not from me, that I enjoy shooting pigeons and reckoned Id be the man of the day, turned out I was el crappo numero uno and decided that something was wrong, I also didn't much care for shooting infant of a bunch of lads I didn't know. The next week I had my best day and managed 46 pigeons in an afternoon but realistically I should have shot a load more. I had been offered some time ago a bit of advice on shooting and so on Saturday armed with my gun a couple of boxes of clays and a slab of carts I went. I started as I did on the stag, rubbish, by the end Scotty had me dusting them pretty well, although not the tricky ones and I feel my game has improved but I have to agree with fortune What does the score matter? You aren’t going to eat any of those clays so it doesn't matter how many you hit or missed. All that matters is that you enjoyed shooting and breaking the ones that you did break. Hopefully you had some good friends to shoot with and you had a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) I shoot there every weekend but they often change the layout of the traps. This weekend they introduced a new high tower, with a bird launched high and across, which was good fun. I try to always start on the same beginners stand to get relaxed but then I hop around stands dependent on what's available. Quite often leave a couple of stands out as several shoot into the sun and you soon lose site of the clay. I'm not an outstanding clay shot by any means, pigeon shooting is really my thing but have done a fair bit on clays now at various grounds/small competitions and the biggest thing I'd say is variation is key to becoming an accomplished shot and really judge how good you are....one ground and their setup can only throw so many different targets/variations.Your score is pretty good to be fair, if you could shoot that regularly at registered shoots would be doing well. As an example I went to barbury shooting ground near swindon recently and shot an 86 ex 100 on their 10 stand layout but went to a smallish competition on Saturday and shot a poor 28 ex 50! The difference being the competition didn't have a single 'easy' stand and one in particular I watched the 4 guys in front of me shoot 1 for 40 shots between them!! Try and shoot as many different grounds/scenario's you can, certainly opened my eyes up. Edited May 4, 2015 by Wilts#Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codeye Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 One more than second place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malmick Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) I shoot there every weekend but they often change the layout of the traps. This weekend they introduced a new high tower, with a bird launched high and across, which was good fun. I try to always start on the same beginners stand to get relaxed but then I hop around stands dependent on what's available. Quite often leave a couple of stands out as several shoot into the sun and you soon lose site of the clay. I agree with this. I got hooked on clays after a guys day out at the end of January. I went back to the shooting ground the following week, joined and started a series of 5 lessons. I've bought a shotgun, had three of the lessons, shoot at least once a week and also shoot at an alternative, but very different club. When I go back to the first ground I always warm up on the beginners stuff and then do some skeet. I then go out and play around on the (for me) more difficult stuff. At the other shoot it's straight in to 5 stands and 5 pairs per stand. Varies session to session and really challenging. Love the variety and challenge, really feel the benefit of warm up at one place and deep end at the other. Scoring 50% so room for improvement. Cheers, Mick Edited May 4, 2015 by malmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I don't bother about my score I think if you fret about it you will miss more that said more than 30 from 50 makes you a decent shot imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickthemiller Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 \Seems like a very good score to me, I used to go to Tree tops fairly often until about 18 months ago when I became ill, what is it like these days, I am getting conflicting reports, some good and others bad, about the place, but would like to visit them again Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 \Seems like a very good score to me, I used to go to Tree tops fairly often until about 18 months ago when I became ill, what is it like these days, I am getting conflicting reports, some good and others bad, about the place, but would like to visit them again Mick I really enjoy it. I've only ever shot at treetops as I started shooting in February. If I was being picky I would say that it could do with a general tidy up I.e general maintenance of paths etc and maybe resurfacing of the car parks. They are always so busy so sometimes the traps need filling more often as a few are often empty, and the cartridge bins could do with a tidy up once in a while. Apart from those minor things I've always had a warm welcome and if you're a member they do a discount on clays and cartridges. The lodge is always warm and they aren't over insistent on any form of dress code. I've had a few lessons there too and they seemed pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I don't bother about my score I think if you fret about it you will miss more that said more than 30 from 50 makes you a decent shot imo But, if you do not bother about your score, how do you know if you have shot more than the said '30'. After over 55 years of shooting both live quarry and clays, and a good many Competitions. The group of 'Victor Meldrew's' that I shoot with, and I, always keep score. By doing that, it gives you something to better next time you shoot. If 'scores' count for so little, why do we take and publish photographs of the day's 'bag'. In my experience those who maintain that there scores "do not matter" are quite right, their scores do not matter ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Unfortunately, in English sporting you're rarely comparing apples with apples. At one local ground I can regularly score 75%, at another I'm lucky to get 60%. A third has two simultaneous layouts which it acknowledges are of different difficulties and at yet another my score varies between 40% & 70% depending upon the mood of the course setter that morning and what the wind's doing. Keep score at one ground and you'll work out if you're getting better or not but don't beat yourself up because you did less well on a harder course, just learn from he different targets. Only at skeet and trap will you see more similarity but even there the elements will have an effect. At least, that's what I keep telling myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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