steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 In the news today: http://news.sky.com/story/1566598/london-council-to-bait-trap-and-cull-foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Total rubbish, the council will not have a legal method of killing them should they actually catch any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Total rubbish, the council will not have a legal method of killing them should they actually catch any. why won't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Total rubbish, the council will not have a legal method of killing them should they actually catch any. do you really think the council are going to do the job inhouse? they will prob sub contact to a legit pest controller like other depts do with other issues.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Total rubbish, the council will not have a legal method of killing them should they actually catch any. the council might not,but their contractors will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hackney Council has now issued a statement saying that the cull has been stopped due to "recent concern" and all traps have been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hackney Council has now issued a statement saying that the cull has been stopped due to "recent concern" and all traps have been removed. Labour run council by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Labour run council by any chance? +1 bet the tree huggers allready had the tents up ready; Edited October 9, 2015 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 why would you advertise the fact you were going to do it,should of carried work out in secret nobody would of known so no kickoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 They will probably catch them and release them on pheasant shoots, where they will promptly get shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) the council might not,but their contractors will.Correct mate , And also private pest controllers,( who get paid off mr and Mrs whoever, who have a problem with them,Bedroom window job) It's nowt new , it's been going on for years in urban environments, Something needs doing , there's more in the towns than there is in the country side. I see more on my way back/ to my lamping sessions than I do on my perms when I get there !!! All cities have a problem with them Atb Flynny Edited October 9, 2015 by flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I don't know of any pest controllers in London licenced to do despatch They will probably catch them and release them on pheasant shoots, where they will promptly get shot. Thats more or less exactly what all the pest controllers that trap foxes do, or at least drive them to the nearest common or woodland. Thats probably why there are so many foxes in Clissold Park in the first place. Edited October 10, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchers Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I don't know of any pest controllers in London licence Thats more or less exactly what all the pest controllers that trap foxes do, or at least drive them to the nearest common or woodland. Thats probably why there are so many foxes in Clissold Park in the first place. Talking ****,it is ileagel to capture and release a target pest back into the wild so as a pest controller we have to kill them.how they did that on that tv program before and got away with it I don't know.but we can not do it but a customer can as if we let it go and I causes a problem than we are liable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I think it is only illegal to release alien species back into the wild. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Talking ****,it is ileagel to capture and release a target pest back into the wild so as a pest controller we have to kill them.how they did that on that tv program before and got away with it I don't know.but we can not do it but a customer can as if we let it go and I causes a problem than we are liable. Its not illegal to release foxes and thats exactly what the big companies do. Because its the cheapest way and becuse with all the ISO 9000 claptrap they have to have written procedures and risk assesments for absolutely everything, they couldn't realistically do it any other way. They couldn't write in a procedure "and then take it round the back and put a bullet in its head" The council could not employ a company thats not ISO registered Years ago the RSPCA used to recommend drowning caught foxes, feral cats and squirrels as a humane (and legal) method of despatch. Some time ago they did a complete turn around on that and now say its inhumane and illegal. So the situation is really down to the RSPCA not giving the pest controllers any option but to release them Edited October 10, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Also if they are relesed you will have an infinite supply of work 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Talking ****,it is ileagel to capture and release a target pest back into the wild so as a pest controller we have to kill them.how they did that on that tv program before and got away with it I don't know.but we can not do it but a customer can as if we let it go and I causes a problem than we are liable. There are loads of stories about semi-tame released foxes turning up in the countryside. Several years ago, one keeper shot over 20 soon after the white van from Bristol had left.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) the good people of the towns and citiees are now enjoying the benefits of all their hard campaigning to stop hunting foxes as they are a lovely fluffy little things.their pets are being killed and their gardens made a mess of with bins pulled out and all the *hit .well good on them I say.i will continue to shoot them in my bit of countryside and as for the towns fox well they aint bothering me so I don't care. Edited October 10, 2015 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Although to be fair looking at it from another angle I think London's foxes are probably the last thing I would worry about, like all big cities it's problems with gangs, illegal firearms, drugs and theifs etc are probably a far bigger problem. Can anyone tell I prefer the countryside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I have done work for Councils in parks, and in simple terms you get on with it and keep it as quiet as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I know two guys who are allowed to shoot foxes in gardens ( yes, from a safe angle ) in the Croydon area. One of whom also shoots them on the pitch of a well known south London football club. It happens,it's legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Anyone with an open FAC can shoot foxes in gardens but it is down to the individual to ensure it is safe to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchers Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Its not illegal to release foxes and thats exactly what the big companies do. Because its the cheapest way and becuse with all the ISO 9000 claptrap they have to have written procedures and risk assesments for absolutely everything, they couldn't realistically do it any other way. They couldn't write in a procedure "and then take it round the back and put a bullet in its head" The council could not employ a company thats not ISO registered Years ago the RSPCA used to recommend drowning caught foxes, feral cats and squirrels as a humane (and legal) method of despatch. Some time ago they did a complete turn around on that and now say its inhumane and illegal. So the situation is really down to the RSPCA not giving the pest controllers any option but to release them You can only release them on to a farmers land only if he gives you permission,and it is against the law for ANY pest control technician to capture and release ANY target pest back into the wild.a customer can do this with no problem but like I said pest control can't.And that comes from the top people from killgerm and the bpca simple as and yes it does happen in some councils because of the fuss the general public twist about it if they did cull it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchers Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 There are loads of stories about semi-tame released foxes turning up in the countryside. Several years ago, one keeper shot over 20 soon after the white van from Bristol had left.. That's because some sly companies pay wagon drivers/white van drives to drop them off in the country side.its not rocket science to pick a town fox out compared to a countryside fox.hence why it's easy pickings for the hunt or gamekeeper to shoot them.ive watched the hounds get 10ft from them before they even know what's coming so the proof is in the pudding that it's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) You can only release them on to a farmers land only if he gives you permission,and it is against the law for ANY pest control technician to capture and release ANY target pest back into the wild.a customer can do this with no problem but like I said pest control can't.And that comes from the top people from killgerm and the bpca simple as and yes it does happen in some councils because of the fuss the general public twist about it if they did cull it. :hmm: Which Law would this be please? Edited October 11, 2015 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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