krugerandsmith Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Thats what I intend to do with the £9.2 government propaganda trying to scare people into staying in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Unfortunately the shiny paper they are printed on does not lend itself to use as replacement bog paper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 How blatantly illegal though to use taxpayers money for this purpose?. Its well out of order. Not a good start. Whichever side you are on surely everyone must recognise that it breaches all the rules of impartiality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 How blatantly illegal though to use taxpayers money for this purpose?. Its well out of order. Not a good start. Whichever side you are on surely everyone must recognise that it breaches all the rules of impartiality. Not sure it is illegal and it is putting the Governments side of things. They are offering a referendum but DC and crew want to stay in. I very much hope we come out and that everyone is allowed to make up their own mind, unfortunately not everyone will be given all of the information or bother to read what is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 All I seem to see and hear on 'news' programmes is propaganda from the "IN" camp. There is very little being shown from the "OUT" camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Regardless of what Cameron wants, the government should be issuing information with all the pros and cons and a fair assessment of in or out.I have not got a leaflet yet but I think I know what to expect. Most people will go with the fear factor and not see a balanced view, that is my concern. OUT and in no doubt in my opinion. Edited April 7, 2016 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I sure it could be tried, before it's put back in and RTS envelope. Unfortunately the shiny paper they are printed on does not lend itself to use as replacement bog paper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Surely the Out camp should also be allowed to use tax payers money to produce their counter arguments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Surely the Out camp should also be allowed to use tax payers money to produce their counter arguments? I fully agree, also the government are there to do as the majority of the population wish. On this important subject the referendum is there to allow the people to decide. The government therefore should provide them with all the information or at least fund the opposing views costs. But they would rather give us their biased views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Such is politics! (from the Greek I think Poly=lots of Ticks= blood sucking creatures) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I haven't seen one yet but the gummints justification is the the public want more facts on the issues. From the little bits I have seen then it's just a rehash of things he's already said and still doesn't give any facts only lots 'exit could mean this' and 'exit could mean that'. A document I'd really like to see is what's planned if the 'stay' vote wins? Remembering 1975, when we were asked about the Common Market, the 'yes' vote was taken as consent for a Europe wide government. I've no doubt that a European Superstate will quickly follow a 'stay' vote. The ideal of the European Union has failed, It is openly corrupt and can never achieve the aspirations of the 'Ins' so let's get out. The current situation with steel shows just how much influence we have over world markets as members of the EU, Knack-all, so let's be masters of our own destiny again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Great Britain is supposed to be a shining light of democracy around the world, yet all I see is a Government with an agenda that would put other supposed 'corrupt' countries to shame. This will be the most important vote in the existence of many people and they can vote 2 ways, IN or OUT. With that being the case then both sides should be given the same access to resources to ensure that the public are well informed and neither side could be accused to doctoring the vote......... DC and Co clearly have their preferred vote and are being made to look like a bunch or clowns by the way they have blatantly put a blackout on the OUT campaign, nothing would make me happier than seeing this backfire right in their face! Sadly, I feel that the result has already been decided to matter how the public vote. Edited April 7, 2016 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Despite my best efforts I still don't have enough info to make my mind up. So i welcome the piece of paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 They keep chiming on about the UK being better inside a 'reformed' EU. But they haven't explained how this reformation will take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Perhaps it is good news and they will have shot their bolt to early. It will all be in recycling within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 They keep chiming on about the UK being better inside a 'reformed' EU. But they haven't explained how this reformation will take place. Recent events show that we have no chance of getting any reforms that are worth having and certainly none that would make a difference. The whole shebang is corrupt and our politicians are not in the same league as them, but they want to be, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I have just signed the on line petition against Gov,s use of taxpayers money to fund the leaflet, !,000 signatures& it must be discussed in the House! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 It seems many people know so much about this. All I want is bullet points why to stay and why to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 On the plus side, the Brexit's will hopefully put this leaflet under the microscope, and if "Dave" tries to add anything to it or change anything when he starts to take flak, he'll be told to do one, because it wasn't on his list. I think he might have cocked-up on this one. I certainly hope so, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 It seems many people know so much about this. All I want is bullet points why to stay and why to leave. Here are a few to be going on with:- http://www.eureferendumfacts.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just signed the petition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Here are a few to be going on with:- http://www.eureferendumfacts.org/ It's a start but yet again just one point of view. I want one place that is not bias one way or the other. To much to ask I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 It's a start but yet again just one point of view. I want one place that is not bias one way or the other. To much to ask I guess. You'll never get a non biased point of view to be fair, mainly because nobody knows for sure what would happen in the event of a Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) You'll never get a non biased point of view to be fair, mainly because nobody knows for sure what would happen in the event of a Brexit. And to be fair nobody really knows what will happen if we stay, as what would a "reformed" EU actually be... As Dave didnt really get much when he tried... Edited April 7, 2016 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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