Albert 888 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) OK I'm after making some targets for a 25yrd 22lr range. They will need to be quite durable and resettable by shooting at them. Spinners and knockdown will be great. I'm after ideas, photos and dimensions if possible, I have access to welding and cutting equipment and steel and proberbly everything I need. So if you guys could be kind enough to post some ideas etc I would be greatfull. It's for my local club and not for making money. Cheers Albert. Edited April 15, 2016 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I have a spinner i made myself, i will get you a pic up. It has a top and bottom disc, though problem is, if i shoot the top disc the bullet goes up into the unknown, so i only use the bottom one too deflect bullet into ground. I didnt think clubs were keen on spinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Thanks guys,I'm getting some good ideas. The dueling tree would be great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Speak to LeadWasp he makes really good targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Make sure you make it out of heavey plate as they bend then snap. I think if you copy the usual air rifle type and up the thickness of steel it will be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I made my discs from 8mm plate, it appears plenty thick enough for the subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footu Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 What's a dueling tree? I'm thinking 2 spinners on a t bar threaded that 2 people shoot at until one reaches the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Dueling tree is a tall tube with multiple spinners from top to bottom in different sizes but duplicated on bothe sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Is it safe ? when it spins does the bullet carry on behind and if not how can you predict where they will angle off to ? Edited April 14, 2016 by Lloyd90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 If you have nothing constructive to say,don't bother saying anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Dueling tree Another thought Both designs can be beefed up,have quite a selection of plate,steel rod,washers and disks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 If you have nothing constructive to say,don't bother saying anything. can you not sleep , grumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 can you not sleep , grumpy On nights :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 On nights :-) oh ok , well forgiven , i hated doing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) The competitive plates are rigid, but you can hear the hit and the bullet completely splatters. Spinners and knockdowns tend to be more for air rifles because of ricochets Edited April 15, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Make sure you make it out of heavey plate as they bend then snap. I think if you copy the usual air rifle type and up the thickness of steel it will be ideal. That .22lr packs a lot more punch than 12ft lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 If you have nothing constructive to say,don't bother saying anything. Was that aimed at me ? What I asked was a genuine question. I too would like to build some of these targets, however would like to know how you can predict where the bullet will end up once striking the metal. It's hardly being negative, just a bit of fore thought into safety 😐 Surely everyone should be thinking "where will the bullet end up" before pulling the trigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Was that aimed at me ? What I asked was a genuine question. I too would like to build some of these targets, however would like to know how you can predict where the bullet will end up once striking the metal. It's hardly being negative, just a bit of fore thought into safety Surely everyone should be thinking "where will the bullet end up" before pulling the trigger! Lloyd most CF rounds will almost completely destroy themselves on impact, however large fragments can be found many yards from the targets as some of these photos will show. Very high velocity soft points will damage hardened targets out to about 180yds, yet ballistic tips at the same speed barely mark. On the .22 front I personally wouldn't shoot subs at steel targets, particularly duelling trees that rotate 'sideways' even though they are angled forwards (for different reasons). CF is fine on trees designed for CF. I don't think the .22 sub has enough energy to do more than 'banana' and go off sideways. I know plenty of people who use HV .22lr and stingers and have done so safely but personally I won't use a .22 rimfire on steel...just so I sleep well. Here are some photo's showing various things to whet your appetite. In order 1/ steel core and copper fragments over 20 yds from target - basically 1" circular saw blades, 2/ 3600 fps .224 softpoint at 100yds on hardened steel, 3/ trench around hardened steel muntjac target eroded by fragmentation over a days shooting only. All photos my copyright Edited April 15, 2016 by LeadWasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Lloyd you are correct with spinners you can't predict where it will ricochet too. As for they splatter on impact, only with a full hit a glancing strike could leave most of the bullet to carry on. Albert you seem to have all the types of targets now. Just to make them strong enough for 100ft lb energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 you have seen and shot the spinners and targets on the .22 range at catton i built just copy them....as long as they are on an embankment no worries about ricochets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 If the zone is safe through the whole backdrop then there us no real issue If I moves away on the force of the hit then 6 mm is OK. If it takes continous direct hits without the ability to move away with the hit 10 mm Have you seen those walking jacks? I was going to get some blanks lazercut a while back I suspect s+s will have loads of suitable off cuts and if your up this way raid my scrap as you cant give it away at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 sparkie on here is your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 sparkie on here is your man cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I shot a steel plate mini-rifle comp last year. There are falling/resettable targets used at 1:52 and 6:40. The fixed targets were shot at between 20 and 10 metres without issue (standard/high velocity ammo) https://youtu.be/7qlCZI7YvlU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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