Glenlivet Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) On a recently acquired permission in the middle of the Cheshire countryside the farmer wants me to dispose of a goose which is messing up his pond. I've told him I'd need to use steel shot (correct?) and I don't have a steel proofed gun. He's not happy ("just shoot the bloody thing in the head!!"). Any suggestions?? Edited to say I don't want to buy a steel proofed gun for one goose!!! Edited April 20, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 You don't have to use steel shot, but you should use non-toxic shot. You don't necessarily need a steel proofed gun to use steel shot. You can only shoot Canada geese out of the normal wildfowling season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Wildfowl are protected by many laws. Careful my friend. Proceed with caution. I was writing the comments mentioned by motty, above, when he pinged in and said them for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 You don't have to use steel shot, but you should use non-toxic shot. You don't necessarily need a steel proofed gun to use steel shot. You can only shoot Canada geese out of the normal wildfowling season. I read the steel shot pinned thread which seemed a bit inconclusive. Wildfowl are protected by many laws. Careful my friend. Proceed with caution. I was writing the comments mentioned by motty, above, when he pinged in and said them for me. Thanks guys. Given all the issues I would prefer not to blast this goose on "it's" pond and think I will probably stick with the "steel shot" line. Also, the farmer's son is a member of the constabulary and may know more about shooting law than he lets on. I do have a place for it at the Sunday dinner table though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 From BASC Canada geese This species can be shot throughout the year (i.e. during the close season) in England, Wales and Scotland only under the terms and conditions of specific general licences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 use a rifle even a decent air rifle will do the job providing you are close enough and as far as I know they have not got around to banning lead through them yet, but no doubt they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Bismuth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philm Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 location in Cheshire? If close enough I'll bring my gun and cartridges and you can go shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 location in Cheshire? If close enough I'll bring my gun and cartridges and you can go shoot it. There is your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Has anyone decided that it is a Canada yet 😗 May have to wait until September Just saying All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 From BASC Canada geese This species can be shot throughout the year (i.e. during the close season) in England, Wales and Scotland only under the terms and conditions of specific general licences Sorry to Hijack, but this being the case, do Canadas need to be shot with non toxic? I was in a position this morning to shoot a couple that were eating recently drilled barley but only had copper coasted shot cartridges so left them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yes they do, as they are still wildfowl even if classed as an invasive non native species. A pity that they ever got designated as such really. Sorry to Hijack, but this being the case, do Canadas need to be shot with non toxic? I was in a position this morning to shoot a couple that were eating recently drilled barley but only had copper coasted shot cartridges so left them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Sorry to Hijack, but this being the case, do Canadas need to be shot with non toxic? I was in a position this morning to shoot a couple that were eating recently drilled barley but only had copper coasted shot cartridges so left them alone. Not sure how this is justified on the General licence, eating off the surface of the drilling. Sounds like killing for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Not sure how this is justified on the General licence, eating off the surface of the drilling. Sounds like killing for the sake of it. Because they are eating the early stage recently drilled and sprouting crops, covered under crop protection, the General Licence is very clear, I can send you a link if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yes they do, as they are still wildfowl even if classed as an invasive non native species. A pity that they ever got designated as such really. Many thanks, will take some Bismuth for next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 A pity, but not illegal. Many thanks, will take some Bismuth for next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 If a canada and can therefore be shot on general licence either for crop protection or as an invasive species, can use any legal method. I used to use 308 when doing control at frodsham but if you can get close a 22rf will also do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 If a canada and can therefore be shot on general licence either for crop protection or as an invasive species, can use any legal method. I used to use 308 when doing control at frodsham but if you can get close a 22rf will also do the job. Is it legal to use a firearm to shoot wildfowl? If so can I use a 8 shot pump on the marsh 😗 Just curious Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Now now Nigel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Now now Nigel! Well either you can or you can't 😉😗 Also thought under the game laws some air rifles were a grey area Just saying like All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 A pity, but not illegal. Why a pity? Damaging crops, no more a pity than shooting Pigeons, Rabbits, Deer, all will end up on (someones) dinner plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 There has been lots written on here over the years as to the why's and why not's. Why a pity? Damaging crops, no more a pity than shooting Pigeons, Rabbits, Deer, all will end up on (someones) dinner plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 There has been lots written on here over the years as to the why's and why not's. I see, well it's entirely legal and a pest/food so enough information for me to make an easy decision. Appreciate not all others feel the same which is the case with other cuddly little animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Due to out of season shooting Canda Geese numbers have been severely reduced in a number of areas in the UK, some may consider this a good thing, others not. It's not illegal so you crack on, those two geese will have that whole field eaten in no time. I see, well it's entirely legal and a pest/food so enough information for me to make an easy decision. Appreciate not all others feel the same which is the case with other cuddly little animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 location in Cheshire? If close enough I'll bring my gun and cartridges and you can go shoot it.Wow, great offer. Thanks :-))) Busy scarifying the lawn at the moment but will pm you later to see if we can work something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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