ChrisAsh Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 The forum always has a statement like" x brands are great value they never lose any money when sold years later" and so on Do the gun owners ever consider the cars they buy, and how they relate to seconhand prices further down the line, especialy when car prices are often many time the shotguns value New car say £20,000 next day worth a good few thousand less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 That's why I bought my last new car 2 years ago. Not only the BIG loss but also Treated like dirt by dealer after buying two cars from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bought my last car Toyota Hilux 2yrs oldon a 59 plate, I paid 16,000, the original owner paid about £25000 new, so he took the big hit, I have no intention of selling it . a 3ltr engine will never wear out as long as it is regularly serviced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bought a series 11A, 2.5ltr Diesel Land Rover for £450, Traveled all over England, Wales, Scotland and the Irish Republic in it................12 years later I got £2200 part X when I sold it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 In Jan I purchased a 2013 VW Passat Estate (cheat engine) with 28k miles, full service history, loaded with options and in superb con for £12k. I have the original invoice, £33k. Say no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Never had a new car or a new bike ever, or new house for that matter, Guns i have had a few new ones, but never really considered the resale vallue ever when i purchased them. I have made a few quid in my time selling guns, but never took it seriously or considered it a viable thing to do, making money in the gun trade must be tough i imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I have never really considered re-sale value - only the once. I am a serial car changer. My car is the 109th I have had and my wife's is the 105th. We have had her car for 3.5 years - longest we have ever owned one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) I have a mk1 Ford Focus RS in the garage, paid 10k for it 6 years ago and it's increasing it value now from what I paid....I've got to enjoy a car for all that time and hasn't lost any value, although I have only done 20k in that time. Edited July 3, 2016 by Wilts#Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Most cars are tools, not investments. Use, abuse, replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bought a 110 defender for £1200, kept it 10 years and sold it for just under £4000. Bought a Disco for £700 (as a short term motor), kept it 12 months and gave it my son who kept it another 12 months, he sold it yesterday for £1100. You can't beat land Rover for going up in value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 always been a land rover man myself. but think you have to remove the Freelander 1, 1.8ltr petrol as one that did not go up in value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Do the gun owners ever consider the cars they buy, and how they relate to seconhand prices further down the line, especialy when car prices are often many time the shotguns value Well, that depends on how pricey your gun is :-) My last gun was more expensive than my last car, but then my last car was second hand. I had a new car just once, when my husband worked for a company in the Ford network, and we got huge discount. Nice, but not worth paying IMHO. DH got a car with <500 miles on in that was <12 months for so much less, I don't personally feel the value has been depreciated that much from new; I don't value the newness. It also depends on how long you are going to have your car for. I buy the right car and drive it forever. In fact, when my last car died after 118,000 (my fault for not getting a timing belt changed quickly enough) I found the same car in a different colour for less than my last gun cost. Okay, I had the first car from new and drove it for 10+years, but the next car was actually six months older than the first one, with only 18,000 on the clock. Suits me. I wish I was the kind of person who could keep a car (or a gun) pristine and sell it on quickly and have a new one, but I'm just not. So yes is your answer, I do consider the resale value or Total Cost of Ownership, and buy and keep forever is the economical choice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I bought a new Freelander 2 back in 2008. I paid just under £24000 for it. Just under 14 months later, I had a email from the dealer (Stratstone) saying that they were looking for good quality 2nd hand Freelanders etc for their clients, and would give a good price for mine, against another new one. I took it down to them with just 7500 mile on the clock, and in excellent condition. They offered me £12,700. I declined their 'generous' offer. On the other hand, I bought a mint condition Browning GTI Grade 5 O/U for £1800, and sold it 11 years later for £1600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you bought a miroku MK - 70 in 2000 and a MK-70 in 2014 and wanted to sell either today, both in new condition, the difference between the value of both guns wouldn't be much different. Bit different to a Ford Focus 2000/2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you bought a miroku MK - 70 in 2000 and a MK-70 in 2014 and wanted to sell either today, both in new condition, the difference between the value of both guns wouldn't be much different. Bit different to a Ford Focus 2000/2014. The numbers may be similar but the value of the money is less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) The numbers may be similar but the value of the money is lessMK70 in mint condition from 2000 would make £800MK70 in mint condition from 2014 would make £900 1.6 focus Zetec in mint condition from 2000 10p 1.6 focus zetec in mint condition from 2014 £6000 All estimates, but not a million miles out. Edited July 5, 2016 by markm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I wonder if anyone has taken into account the running costs of cars, tax, fuel, servicing, tyres, etc etc. Add that lot up and take it away from the end value and I bet you are into the negative funds. OK we put cartridges through our guns but we spend nowhere near on its maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 MK70 in mint condition from 2000 would make £800 MK70 in mint condition from 2014 would make £900 1.6 focus Zetec in mint condition from 2000 10p 1.6 focus zetec in mint condition from 2014 £6000 All estimates, but not a million miles out. I'd say you're penny perfect. I spend very average money on guns because they're tools which only I use, typically lost about the equivalent to £40 a year on shot guns bought new when considering their market value today. Although I have had mega motoring with cars, they can't be thought of in the same way as guns because they really do move on in terms of modernity and the fact that the whole family gets to enjoy and use them makes losing fousands worthwhile. My first car was a 1974 Mini Clubman which after 3-1/2 years of use I sold for £420 losing a mere £50 - an old Rav 4 which I owned for 3 years cost me the same in depreciation. If and when I do buy that £10k gun it'd be for keeps so the depreciation will be all but immaterial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted July 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I bought a new Freelander 2 back in 2008. I paid just under £24000 for it. Just under 14 months later, I had a email from the dealer (Stratstone) saying that they were looking for good quality 2nd hand Freelanders etc for their clients, and would give a good price for mine, against another new one. I took it down to them with just 7500 mile on the clock, and in excellent condition. They offered me £12,700. I declined their 'generous' offer. I brought mine in 2010 and its been fine until a few months ago when the diff started to wine, Looked it up on the web and found they changed the diff a month or so after i brought it and plenty of complaints about rear diff. I contacted Land Rover and complained unfit for purpose when they sold me the car ( tough in cheek after 6 years) they replaced it for free, it's a keeper till i push up the daisy's 7 Years shooting see no point in changing gun low cost one; as like the landy it does its job and doubt my skill would improve with a better gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 3 out of 4 of my cars will increase in value. Maybe one of my guns might be worth more than I paid the rest about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Next door neighbour bought a new Defender 110 3 years ago for £24K just traded it back in for a new one with 70,000 on the clock and they gave him £23K, cheap motoring that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Next door neighbour bought a new Defender 110 3 years ago for £24K just traded it back in for a new one with 70,000 on the clock and they gave him £23K, cheap motoring that. 70K on a new car...that's some delivery mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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