Glenlivet Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just. Bought 1000 Gamebore Velocity + from my local RFD. The price has increased by £20 since two weeks ago. "It's all about the exchange rate" says the guy behind the counter. "They're made in the U.K." Says I. "Ahh, but all the components are imported" says he. I'll guarantee that these carts were made months ago. Somebody is seriously taking the yellow stuff!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 They are indeed extracting the yellow stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) It doesn't matter how long ago they were made if the value of the commodity has increased. You wouldn't be complaining if your gold coins went up in value, even though they were made years ago and purchased for a lower price. Just in case you wanted to see the graph for lead $ per tonne. Then we look at the value of the $ to the £... It adds up. Edited November 1, 2016 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Interesting..roughly a 17% increase since May do you have a grapth that goes back to when the price dropped from it's peak when it was 60% higher than it is today? Even taking into account the drop in the £ surley costs can't have gone above the threshold used as the justification to put the prices up last time. Even oil has come down What gets me is that even in Euros if 1 =£1) cartridges are cheaper in Europe. Edited November 1, 2016 by Paul1440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 It doesn't matter how long ago they were made if the value of the commodity has increased. You wouldn't be complaining if your gold coins went up in value, even though they were made years ago and purchased for a lower price. Just in case you wanted to see the graph for lead $ per tonne. Then we look at the value of the $ to the £... It adds up. gold prices goes up and down,so does lead,why does the the price of cartridges stay up when the price of lead falls???,price of cartridges goes up when lead price rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've never come across the concept of 'bullion' cartridges before. Perhaps I should lay down a few slabs as a future pension pot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) gold prices goes up and down,so does lead,why does the the price of cartridges stay up when the price of lead falls???,price of cartridges goes up when lead price rise Because you usually buy (and sell) gold at a price which the market dictates. When you buy a product containing a commodity, you will pay above the market rate and it's usually inflated way beyond what the spot price is and isn't very volatile. Look at petrol vs a barrel of oil as an example. Edited November 1, 2016 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Can't blame the rfd, he's gotta make a few quid or where will you get them next time? The supplier set the cost price. Maybe if it wasn't for Brexit the manufacturers could of swallowed the increase in lead price, who knows! On a brighter side, George's cartridges are still are bargain, more so now than ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just. Bought 1000 Gamebore Velocity + from my local RFD. The price has increased by £20 since two weeks ago. "It's all about the exchange rate" says the guy behind the counter. "They're made in the U.K." Says I. "Ahh, but all the components are imported" says he. I'll guarantee that these carts were made months ago. Somebody is seriously taking the yellow stuff!!! hello, just bought some my self what did you pay ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 hello, just bought some my self what did you pay ?£170, his final remark was "good job you didn't want game cartridges"!!! Can't blame the rfd, he's gotta make a few quid or where will you get them next time? The supplier set the cost price. Maybe if it wasn't for Brexit the manufacturers could of swallowed the increase in lead price, who knows! On a brighter side, George's cartridges are still are bargain, more so now than ever!! I'll be ringing round before I buy next time, so potentially I'll be getting them somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 £170, his final remark was "good job you didn't want game cartridges"!!! I'll be ringing round before I buy next time, so potentially I'll be getting them somewhere else. ok thanks, a bit less at just cartridge @ £161 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just in case you wanted to see the graph for lead $ per tonne. Then we look at the value of the $ to the £... It adds up. I am trying to remember how much I paid for cartridges in October 2007, when lead was double today's price. Or in December 2008, when lead was half today's price. Source: http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=lead&months=120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I am trying to remember how much I paid for cartridges in October 2007, when lead was double today's price. Or in December 2008, when lead was half today's price. Price of lead 2006-2016.gif Source: http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=lead&months=120 You mean in 2007 when it was over 2 dollars to the pound.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 You mean in 2007 when it was over 2 dollars to the pound.... Back to the exchange rate then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Back to the exchange rate then.... Yes, but lead was double the price. You half the value of the lead if the exchange rate is double. Edited November 1, 2016 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes, but lead was double the price. You half the value of the lead if the exchange rate is double. Provided lead is universally priced in dollars like oil. My point remains that when the cartridges were manufactured there wasn't the premium on lead or the exchange rate, the extra £20 is pure profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Provided lead is universally priced in dollars like oil. My point remains that when the cartridges were manufactured there wasn't the premium on lead or the exchange rate, the extra £20 is pure profit. Most commodities are traded in US dollars, so there's that to consider. Heaven forbid that the RFD might be making a tiny bit of profit and keeping themselves fed... I don't have a business degree, but I'm fairly sure you need to make some profit to stay afloat and safe in times of austerity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 A piece of Lee reloading kit I looked at on a well known website a couple of weeks ago was £36, I went back on to buy it this weekend and its now £42. All the Lee stuff on that website seems to have had a similar price hike across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Provided lead is universally priced in dollars like oil. My point remains that when the cartridges were manufactured there wasn't the premium on lead or the exchange rate, the extra £20 is pure profit. I wasn't aware that like foodstuff, that carts had a manufactured date stamp on them :-) So maybe they were made last year or last week. As to lead- it's not the only component old chap that could have been imported!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I wasn't aware that like foodstuff, that carts had a manufactured date stamp on them :-) So maybe they were made last year or last week. As to lead- it's not the only component old chap that could have been imported!!!!! The cases are imported (probably primed already), as is the powder and the lead. No idea about wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Peanuts !!! No not the cost of cartridges, the cost of, yes, peanuts. Just made my usual order of two 25kg bags supplied to the door and they have gone from £25 last time, 6 mths ago to £35 a bag this time and my suppliers one of the cheapest I have found. Imports are bound to rise with the drop in the £ but everything we want to sell overseas is going to be like hot cakes to the buyer, plus lots of dollars pouring in from tourists too. Swings and roundabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinois Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I run a company called Dogtra UK. All my products are imported from France. The pound has dropped so far it is coming to a point where I must increase the cost to the customer or I will actually be selling at a loss. This is something many customers find hard to believe as the product is so expensive in the first place. One thing I do know though is that the economists wanted this and was likely to happen regardless of Brexit as they wanted to export more than they import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroku50 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Prepare yourself for more increases in the new year, thus far this is only a 10% rise which with vat becomes 12 % The pound has dropped at least 15% This does not include lead price rises and small increase in factory cost Expect another 10 % in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miroku50 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 In real terms cartridges have never been as cheap as they are now ! If you think of the price of 1000 budget clay cart as a percentage of the average weekly wage ( even min wage) then compare this to 20 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 In real terms cartridges have never been as cheap as they are now ! If you think of the price of 1000 budget clay cart as a percentage of the average weekly wage ( even min wage) then compare this to 20 years ago 'In real terms' Rip Off Britain did not get that title for nothing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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