naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Just got in from work to find out while my step dad was walking Lucy, my 16 week old cocker spaniel she has been attacked He had just came off a public footpath from a field where we walk her off the lead and a savage alsation from a house jumped the garden wall, came flying down the road attacking her, knocked her over then proceeded to rip her stomach and luckly she managed to get up and leg it (faster than the alsation thankfully) away, she wouldn't even come back when called so my step dad chased her and eventually she stopped and came back to him. Took her to the vet, who said she was lucky as if it had been further down could hav been very serious and she did well to escape relatively unscaved. Step dad has gone back to the house to hand them the bill to find a 16yr old lad who parents are holidaying who has taken the bill and reckon his parents will pay. We shall see, I have a feeling they may try and riggle out of it, either way its been reported to the police and if they try to wiggle out then I will seek to prosecute both them and the dog. She was wary of other dogs anyway and she was just getting her confidience up with other dogs. She is just sitting in the front room all sad faced and didn't even get up or move to greet me. We will just have to wait and see if any physcological damage has been caused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 mmmm and there was a guy on here recently asking if a GS was a suitable dog to take shooting. Personally I wouldn't trust that sort as far as I could spit! Point to ponder though...if this dog is juged to be unsafe then a put down might be in order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 A dog that guards it's property is ok, but once it starts jumping walls and getting nasty something needs to be done! I hope your dog comes out of this ok no matter what happens to the other one. Shame it's not on your permission, you could have shot it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff915 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 i feel for you and your dog i had next doors rotti jump our fence and kill my wifes 16 week old bengal which cost us an arm and a leg in the first place, we they mentioned the fact of our 2 youngesters playing in the back, got police and rspca in volved but they couldnt do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 The air rifle wouldn't have done much other than ****** it off As for it getting put down, if its the dog I think it is then it is a menace to society and isn't the first time. I don't intend on getting nasty at all but should they start trying to wingle out of it I will be asking one of the many parents of my friends who are partners at solicitors to take them to the cleaners. I am more worried about the dog and any pyschological damage done to the dog and should this dog attack anyone/ another dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughshot Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 They dont pay up 3/4 choke and 32grams o BB (kidding of course ) A dog that dangerous should be put down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Me thinks it is more a problem with the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 If the pup was already shy of other dogs to begin with I think you may well be in for some worry or fear. As the old saying goes once bitten twice shy. If I were you I would be looking for a puppy socialization class...perferably one that is dogs the same age as yours...... or alternatively if there are a bunch of people in your area that you know with young pups have a couple of puppy BBQ's....no do not bbq the puppies.....get them all together in the garden and let them have a play time. That way she will be building her confidence back up with smaller dogs to start and the play should entice her to join in. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Me thinks it is more a problem with the owner. probably either way not my dog's fault, I would have accepted it a bit more if she was noising around his gate or barking but she wasn't even near his house and just minding her own business. She has just tried to move off my mum's lap and been continually yelping so lets hope it isn't going to cause further complications, as when it happened she was fine (bar the wound). If the pup was already shy of other dogs to begin with I think you may well be in for some worry or fear. As the old saying goes once bitten twice shy. If I were you I would be looking for a puppy socialization class...perferably one that is dogs the same age as yours...... or alternatively if there are a bunch of people in your area that you know with young pups have a couple of puppy BBQ's....no do not bbq the puppies.....get them all together in the garden and let them have a play time. That way she will be building her confidence back up with smaller dogs to start and the play should entice her to join in. NTTF Well she was bowled over before by an out of control greyhound but a friend of ours has a lovely little terrier and she has been playing with her. So will just have to put some more time in with her and the terrier. Thanks NTTF, Dan Just spoke to mum properly (had guests earlier) apparently the dog was on the footpath and came running at her from behind. Just so happens that they live near the footpath, so we got the wires crossed. She wont eat at the mo and currently the vet bill stands at £40 but it will increase as we will be taking her again for a check up, espically if she continues to welp. Just trying to coax her to eat, all though limping It just gets me mad that people like this have dogs that they cannot control and to top it off let them run free on frequented footpaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-max Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Sorry to here hope she's well keep us posted.Anti-freeze a bad thing for dog's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Sorry to here hope she's well keep us posted.Anti-freeze a bad thing for dog's lol, All I can hope is that next time he decides to pick on the farmer's dog when he is moaching around with a loaded shotgun. Apparently the aunt of the lad who was looking after the dog, turnt round and said "oh well we sent the children off to check there were no other dogs around." Clearly she knew the dog was dangerous, so why did they have him off in the first place? Will keep you posted, managed to get her fed and although she is yelping a lot and wimping seems relatively ok. Have told my mum if she has ANY doubts, to take her to the vets anyway as we won't be paying the bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 you get good and bad, i have a german sheperd and he is good with the kids i walk him in the fields away from other dogs,that way no harm comes to any thing,and he gaurds well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 you get good and bad, i have a german sheperd and he is good with the kids i walk him in the fields away from other dogs,that way no harm comes to any thing,and he gaurds well. I know, its just a bit annoying as they clearly know its dangerous and she is only a puppy. I shouldn't blame the dog but its hard not to with these things as emotionally the "dog" attacked her. My aunt has a GS and he is lovely, even played with my puppy fine but he was reasonably trained and controlled. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 My sprocker has a real nack for getting attacked (even though he tries to avoid dogs he doesn't know), I've found the best method is to pretend the offending dogs head is a barking football rolling towards you. You normally end up with a sore foot but it deters the other dog and saves a vets bill. Its a bit of a bully of a shepard if it picks on a 16 week old pup. Bully doesn't really sum it up, chasing the dog on site, flooring her and then taking a chunk out the poor little mite while she was on her back trying to defend herself is ridiculous! Oh well she seems 'ok' atm and thats the main thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 My sprocker has a real nack for getting attacked (even though he tries to avoid dogs he doesn't know), I've found the best method is to pretend the offending dogs head is a barking football rolling towards you. You normally end up with a sore foot but it deters the other dog and saves a vets bill. Its a bit of a bully of a shepard if it picks on a 16 week old pup. There are certain things you can carry with you to deter a aggresive dog Naddan. PM me for details and if you have any difficulty reclaiming the vets bills. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Sorry to here hope she's well keep us posted.Anti-freeze a bad thing for dog's lol, All I can hope is that next time he decides to pick on the farmer's dog when he is moaching around with a loaded shotgun. Apparently the aunt of the lad who was looking after the dog, turnt round and said "oh well we sent the children off to check there were no other dogs around." Clearly she knew the dog was dangerous, so why did they have him off in the first place? Will keep you posted, managed to get her fed and although she is yelping a lot and wimping seems relatively ok. Have told my mum if she has ANY doubts, to take her to the vets anyway as we won't be paying the bills. As I said, problem with the owners (of the Alsation). Oh well, there's one in every street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I agree with you mungler...that one fustrated alsation. Probably dosn't get any excercise or attention, and just left to roam the garden - bored with no socialisation with other dogs.......and on the look out for something to do day in day out. Dogs are what you make them ordinarilly. The GS must have some very had some very bad mental problems to attack a 'belly-up' pup... I would say the owners are to blame.... A well socialised, excercised, and loved dog wouldn't do that normally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 If its going to do that they must make their garden dog proof. I've had my dogs attacked while on leads and its not pleasant mostly by one evil old retriever. Even though they're Jack Russels they bark like mad but don't fight. Last time it happened the dog pinned one of mine at which point I scruffed it and picked it up and fortunately it dropped mine. Its owner came up and got all mouthy about being cruel to her dog! All I could say was if it does it again thats going to look very tame. In your position keep the pup on the lead for a while as that helps to build up confidence and as said keep introducing her to new dogs, and obviously don't walk near the house again. Its also worth making sure you have a nice stout walking stick as they can come in very handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr3w1986 Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hi there, sorry to here about your dog, hope it's ok. Just thought I'd add my 2p regarding GS/Alsatians as my parents used to own a few. Some people are saying that it's down to the owners that the afforementioned GS is behaving somewhat aggressively. With my parents this was not so. They first had a bitch, Kim, who at best was rather unsociable towards anything, dogs, cats, people, unless it was my parents. This went on to include Jamie, a male. As a pup/youngster Jamie recieved several nips and bites from Kim, including getting chomped on the muzzle and having an ear bitten through. Even after he'd matured and they'd mated she was still unfriendly, attacking him when he was helping to clean the pups (13 pups in 1 litter!!). Anyway, the story ends with Kim being put down after breaking free from mum during a walk, having seen a young lad playing in the field (playground was next to the field) and going for him. Mum managed to get in between them before Kim did anything to the boy, but had a nasty bite on the arm. Now my parents loved the dogs when we had them, and after I was born Jamie (the big softy) became my dog as he followed me everywhere , so mis-treatment was never an issue. Some dogs are just aggressive, regardless of what their owners are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 mmmm and there was a guy on here recently asking if a GS was a suitable dog to take shooting. Personally I wouldn't trust that sort as far as I could spit! Point to ponder though...if this dog is juged to be unsafe then a put down might be in order ********! Its always down to the owners. I have a GSD and he is a baby ..... he was attacked by a spaniel and we contacted the police and the local dog warden went and had a word with the owners, who just let the dog roam, the final straw was when my mother got bit by it while trying to fend it off!, we had several attacks before we reported it, all dogs are capable is what i am really trying to say. Sorry to hear about your dog, i really hope they do the decent thing and pay the vet bills. Blame the deed and not the breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 sorry but no, breeding does have an impact. I've a friend who has had german shepards for years had a pup last year and that was bad from day 1. Attacked her and her husband at 6 months old they did everything possible but in the end had it put to sleep as it was dangerous to them let alone anyone else. They had had plenty through the years and were great owners retired so the dogs never lacked time or company. I've seen it with other people as well, you get good one and you get bad ones with bad ones its hard but you have to get rid of them in most circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hope the dog is ok! I have owned a GSD and been a kid growing up around two of them. Like all dogs they are capable of inflicting wounds on other dogs, some more than others. GSD's suffer because of the aggressive image the police using them gives, as well as them making good guard dogs. It's unfair to tarnish the breed, or in this case blame the dog. If they were dangerous dogs they'd be biting and killing people, and therefore be banned. Sadly this one sounds like its too far gone and is probably one more incident away from being destroyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dogs are like folk, good uns and bad uns. Just like folk nature and nuture take a part. I'm always having problems with GSDs and my springer, get the fear every time I see one after many attacks. Generally the owners don't give a stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 You should try to get the GSD to attack this "Dog" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 How is the little one tonight? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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