rustybucket Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have a problem with my nervous system, they (the hospital) don't know what it is exactly and they stopped investigating a few years a go, im on top of it and I haven't been caught unaware by a flare up in about 3 years now. The wife asked as we was being seen by the same specialist (pain clinic) when asked i told her just that, the farmer said due to the nature of my disability he couldn't allow me to shoot on his land anymore. I personally feel that it's either a liability issue if I get injured on his land, despite the worse injury I had in all the time I've been shooting there was from welding up a set of gates for him. Or he simply doesn't understand my type of disability and how it affects me shooting, if I feel a flare up creeping on the gun stays in the cabinet and i stay at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Are the police aware of you medical problem Just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Are the police aware of you medical problem Just asking If there not I'm sure you will keep them posted. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Are the police aware of you medical problem Just asking The OP hasn't defined the nature of the problem or the symptoms. I trust that if you ever get shingles (a problem with the nervous system) you'll immediately inform the police and hand your guns in for safe custody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 The police are aware of my medical condition but I only shoot air rifles at the moment, the only reason the police are aware is ive just applied for my sgc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sorry if it sounded wrong but just going by your statement "if I feel a flare up creeping on the gun stays in the cabinet and i stay at home " it does make you consider without knowing any of the history, if you should inform them, as I think its part of the licence that you inform them of any medical reasons that may effect your licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 No that's fine, I keep my air rifles in a cabinet as I have a young lad. But my condition isn't a notifiable disease for driving and insurance purpose so im hoping it's not going to affect a SGC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Might it literally be as simple as the farmer and his wife just completely misunderstanding the difference between having an issues with one's nervous system, and having an issue with one's nerves. The latter being a euphemism for stress, anxiety, depression, you name it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 The fact you only used air rifles on their land makes it even more of an odd one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 We must all remember that a landowner is legally responsible for the well being of every visitor to his land, be they invited or not. If someone injures or harms himself on the land the occupier is held legally responsible for any damages that the visitor may claim. Therefore the landowner is doing exactly what I would do, he's covering his own back just in case the worst should happen. Imagine his insurers reaction should the worst happen and they found out the landowner knowingly allowed someone with an illness to roam their land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 We must all remember that a landowner is legally responsible for the well being of every visitor to his land, be they invited or not. If someone injures or harms himself on the land the occupier is held legally responsible for any damages that the visitor may claim. Therefore the landowner is doing exactly what I would do, he's covering his own back just in case the worst should happen. Imagine his insurers reaction should the worst happen and they found out the landowner knowingly allowed someone with an illness to roam their land. That's my take on it, if they were unaware of the issue its unlikely there would be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 We must all remember that a landowner is legally responsible for the well being of every visitor to his land, be they invited or not. If someone injures or harms himself on the land the occupier is held legally responsible for any damages that the visitor may claim. Therefore the landowner is doing exactly what I would do, he's covering his own back just in case the worst should happen. Imagine his insurers reaction should the worst happen and they found out the landowner knowingly allowed someone with an illness to roam their land. agreed,can`t blame the farmer sorry to say rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm pretty sure I told him when I got the permission but obviously I didn't, the reason I put this up was asking if any other people have had this issue before. I've met a few disabled people who shoot but they have more obvious disabilities and one guy from Somerset who has MS (which as a condition is much more impactful and unpredictable then mine) I have sent an email asking if they've had any legal issues or liability issues and if they any special paperwork in place that could absolve liability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Well went and picked up the stuff and the land owner said a neighbour was wanting to speak to me, so popped across and apparently the neighbour was disgusted that I got kicked off and gave me permission to shoot there! Result, it's not as big, 40 acres but it's a good start, go to go up tomorrow with insurance and a permission form and we'll have a walk of the boundary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Result 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Delighted for you. What goes around comes round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Result Nice one Delighted for you. What goes around comes round. Cheers guys, it's really helped to alleviate the sucky feeling I had. I've also confirmed with the guy that he was aware I had a disability as I didn't want a repeat but he was cool with it, i still think I'm going to be door knocking so I don't have to rely on the one permission. Going to celebrate with a curry and a bottle of sloe gin tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sloe gin and curry ! It's always got to be strong lager with curry for me ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 If the original owner spoke to you about the fact that the new person next door wanted to talk to you about whatever didn't you broach as to why he suddenly chopped you out of the frame? Or even the new bloke? They must have spoken about you and your problem or how would the new bloke know that you existed and that you needed somewhere to shoot. Good news anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 If the original owner spoke to you about the fact that the new person next door wanted to talk to you about whatever didn't you broach as to why he suddenly chopped you out of the frame? Or even the new bloke? They must have spoken about you and your problem or how would the new bloke know that you existed and that you needed somewhere to shoot. Good news anyway. Agreed. Sounds a bit like the farmer wasn't the making the decision and did a bit to see that you weren't left short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sounds a bit like the farmer wasn't the making the decision and did a bit to see that you weren't left short. This sounds very plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Agreed. Sounds a bit like the farmer wasn't the making the decision and did a bit to see that you weren't left short. This did all start when you saw his wife at the docs ect. Perhaps it was her that went home and TOLD the old man what he was going to do and you got the chop. As you said the new bloke was disgusted by what had happened to you. Either she didn't like you or doesn't agree with shooting or she'd got a thorn up her rudder. Not shot her cat have you? When I next saw him I'd have to ask him straight man to man about the reason and I'd be looking straight in his eyes if he answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybucket Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just got back from meeting the landowner and all went well whilst thanking him I asked was it the bloke or his wife who talked to him and it turned out it was the wife, but got a bit of a backstory though, on the original bit of land apparently they got sued massively by a disabled person who was using their riding school. Apparently ever since he's been funny about any disabled person, I can understand why but it still sucks. But no point crying over spilt milk I've still got somewhere to shoot, seen a lot of warrens and damage on our walkabout today with loads of fresh poo near them so hoping to get out next week and start making a dent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Sounds like Christmas has come early to you!! Here's hoping for alot of bunny bashing in the coming months!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 At least you have an answer and reason as to the decision to boot you off. Still you know the boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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