nabbers Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Sometimes I want to tinker with my .22LR and play around with scope positions etc and venturing to my permission can mean a lot of prior arranging , I wondered about setting up a small range in a remote building I have use of. Distance would be 35- 40 feet, I think the old Miniature Rifle clubs must have shot over short ranges indoors like this, very common between the wars. But the thoughts of a .22LR round ricochet pinging about the building is a worry ...is there any low powered rounds available other than .22 shot shells ? And I guess the back stop is the key thing....sandbags? Sleepers? Tin hat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 .22 shorts or something like Winchester Z, lower powered round. Remember in France as a kid the gallery rifle stalls at the fairground used 22 shorts at a range of a couple of meters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1nut Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 There is a local club near me that uses a 25mt range indoors. They have a bank of sand built up at 45deg and a thick steel plate behind at an opposite angle pointing down works very well. It's hosed down every now and again to keep the dust down. You can hear the crack of the rifle but it's a really dull thud hitting the sand. No hv rounds are allowed, but they use target rounds and plenty of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Would a 'range' not have to be approved by the Police? I know some people set up their own zeroing stations on private land or their own huge gardens. Do you have an open ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Would a 'range' not have to be approved by the Police? I know some people set up their own zeroing stations on private land or their own huge gardens. Do you have an open ticket? Police hold no authority to authorise ranges. The authority is a military publication JSP I forget the number the range should be bulit in compliance with it have planning permission if needed and insurance the latter is the hard part. Other informal shooting areas are self policed by the shooter and obviously not open to the public. Oh the sand is unlikely to be at 45 dregress more likely 36 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 300 win mag was a bit overkill in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 https://youtu.be/MUlLXNPCap4 300 win mag was a bit overkill in the end. :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Hmm that puts it in perspective. Think I'll go for version of that in 4" wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 300 win mag was a bit overkill in the end. Holy ****, glad I'm not his neighbour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I showed the wife this video when she was at work and said I was just off to the garage to see if we had any good steel lying around. My phone rang about half a second after she got my message 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) CCI and other ammo brands ,do a 'quiet' or low powered .22lr round, usually about 50-60 ft pounds. Although I always found them to be highly inaccurate for some reason, it may be the gun I used them in didnt like them. Obviously you still need a backstop and a non deflective target holder. The problem is , if you are wanting to use the range for zeroing or testing field ammo, this would not be much good to you. Edited May 9, 2017 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masmiffy Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I remember someone telling me that if you register your property as a 'range' or 'shooting gallery' you dont need an FAC No idea if thats right as you need the FAC to purchase gun and ammo! the person concerned was well into 'common law' Found this in black and white tho!!! http://www.guntradenews.com/comment/legal/legal-small-bore-and-the-law/ Edited May 9, 2017 by masmiffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 We had a 20m indoor live fire range in College. There were two steel plates that were the backstops for the two firing points. Can't recall how thick they were, think it was c. 1". They were angled at 45 degrees. These were surrounded by wooden slats, apart from just in front of the plates where we used plywood sheets with the target holes bored out, the ply was hung over that were hung on old election posters that covered the steel. This took care of the splashback (old rounds being fired back down the range when a fresh round hit the pile. there were some wooden baffles down the side of the range and a couple hanging from the ceiling so if someone really made an **** of themselves, the rounds would dig into wood and not ricochet. Place was like that for 30 years and there was never an incident, apart from banging your head on the baffles from time to time. I'll see if I can dig up some photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 All these design specs are free available on line in the jsp but you must also read and apply the jsp for an official range. Do what you will for personal use at home but make sure you insured if you mess it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Our school range 25m was backdropped by conveyor belt rubber curtains and a very big sand pit so no ricochet as they were 1" thick as W/W says get insurance fun can go wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) We have an indoor 25m HO Approved Range and a couple of years back went over to rubber crumb as a backstop. Used to be steel angled down to sand - messy and lead splash a big problem. So much nicer now with crumb and its just piled up into bays at an angle - it's the same they use at equestrian centres. Range is limited at 475 foot pounds impact but rounds rarely go into the crumb more than 4 - 5 inches ! One more advantage is that the rounds come out almost like unfired apart from when its getting time to empty and they hit another bullet. It then pays towards itself as guys buy the lead to re-cast as quality is that good. ATB. Edited May 12, 2017 by station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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