Tollerman Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Any one out there who may know the going rate for shooting rights in Essex.? I Know it varies according to the land with higher rates for plenty of woodland ,ponds etc but a rough idea would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Any one out there who may know the going rate for shooting rights in Essex.? I Know it varies according to the land with higher rates for plenty of woodland ,ponds etc but a rough idea would help. In my experience the 'going rate' is whatever someone is prepared to pay. There is ALWAYS a higher bidder waiting in the wings (so to speak !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Last I heard it was between £5-£10 acre depending on the ground and any cover crops are at extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Lots see here https://homes.trovit.co.uk/shooting-rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Our landlord increased ours by 50% last year and it was as someone said if we don't accept there is a lot of others who would jump at 1000 acres. He did however increase our cover crop acreage but then rather spoilt the whole thing by having a massive tidy up effectively removing all the natural cover from unproductive corners, ponds etc etc. 'Words' were said at the end of shoot meeting and we have had to change our mix of birds as partridges shot reduced dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Thought you only paid for the actual acerage you shoot over and not the whole land the farmer owns. Such a high jump in price seems harsh, you raither haven't been paying enough or he is taking the wee wee. Some farmers think they can charge the prices of top shoots rent for poor ground, see shoots disband regular due to this. Have a search on here as there was a good thread on land prices for shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Thought you only paid for the actual acerage you shoot over and not the whole land the farmer owns. Such a high jump in price seems harsh, you raither haven't been paying enough or he is taking the wee wee. Some farmers think they can charge the prices of top shoots rent for poor ground, see shoots disband regular due to this. Have a search on here as there was a good thread on land prices for shooting. And so they should. In my personal opinion, having a group of people rearing pheasants, tramping and driving over the farm, with all the damage and inconvenience caused, warrants a decent income. I am always amazed that non shooting farmers allow it for a measly few £ an acre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 And so they should. In my personal opinion, having a group of people rearing pheasants, tramping and driving over the farm, with all the damage and inconvenience caused, warrants a decent income. I am always amazed that non shooting farmers allow it for a measly few £ an acre. Sorry got to disagree, if farmers start charging high £ per acre it will push game/rough shooting back to when it was only the landed gentry and rich that could afford it. As to people doing what they like on someone's land, I would have thought a paper agreement on the rules of what shooters can and cannot do on the land would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Most farmers are greedy by nature and when they get together and start talking two and two start making five. Unless I knew land I rented was a bit too cheap I wouldn't stand a fifty percent increase in one year. What happens the following year when he thinks hmm I'll up it again they paid more last year. Each to their own but for most of us it's a hobby not a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Afraid supply and demand has taken some rates to unbelievable heights here but cant comment on where you are. Lucky that i have known my farms for up to 30ish years and most are still free although i have started giving them something extra at Xmas to try and stave off any others coming in but you never know for sure. Out of the 25ish places only 2 have asked for something and straight away i thought someone was trying to get their feet in but the sums suggested were really only a token payment and way below their true worth.Both were mainly stalking places and superb ones at that and could command way bigger fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazy Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 We run a DIY shoot on a farm in Essex. It's 300 acres and we pay £1,600 for rent of the land. This is all year for pigeon shooting if we want it and for the 3 bird pens and then every other Saturday to run the shoot during the season. We rear duck on the ponds and have a shoot cabin on the farm too. We pay the farmer for the cover crop each year and that is £1200. There always a few bottles of good scotch handed over during the season and a hamper for the Mrs at Xmas. The farm has had a shoot on it for over 40 years and so it's more tradition for the farmer than making money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollerman Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks Graham for the info.We currently run a similar set up and have done for many years.However an additional 400 hundred acres on a neighbouring farm has been offered to us and not wishing to offend the farmer wanted some idea of the going rate.Giad to hear that you get on so well with your farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 As regards the additional 400 acres, I am sure you know what to look for as regards its potential for holding and showing birds to the guns, I would walk the ground, find out what you can and cannot do and go from there , if the ground is equal in potential to your exciting ground in its game holding/showing potential then you will have to offer the same per acre as your exciting shoot, farmers talk to one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scotland Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. I have 8 farms 2 estates and one forest block for a total cost of £0. Think you should change your font colour from white to black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scotland Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 I got a ssstutter when I seen the price red dot pays for his ground I pay double that 🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Was offered 500 acres for £500 a pound an acre with 2 small woods Lincolnshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Was offered 500 acres for £500 a pound an acre with 2 small woods Lincolnshire Was that to buy the land? Surely not for the shooting rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Just for the shooting rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Was that to buy the land? Surely not for the shooting rights. No, I think its 500 acres for £500 making it £1 per acre, well that's what I think he's saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just for the shooting rights I assume they were joking. What was on the land, just out interest? I pay £1/acre for decent stalking land which I take about 30-40 deer off a year, seems fair to me. That is roe and muntjac, if we had fallow down here it could easily turn to profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 £1 per acre on my stalking.. £25 for the caravan on site.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Yes think your right pound per acre, not a bad price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'd happily pay £1 an acre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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