Section 2 Practical Shot Gun ideas

[nnorman32]

Hello.

 

Daydreaming about a section 2 shotgun for starting PSG.

Picture the scene,1984, watching badly subtitled Italian VHS called "Blastfighter", the only film I have seen where the gun, a Franchi Special Purpose Automatic Shotgun, was more of a star than the actors (except Stallone in Judge Dead maybe) but I digress. Looking for suggestions for a starter Practical Shotgun - pump action 12g in Yorkshire area.

 

The Mossberg pump I was looking at sold and the The SPAS 12 I once coveted is too heavy and at a grand is way too expensive.

Anyone started section 2 PSG with a Revo or similar and what advice do you have?

Cheers

N.

[Scully]

As far as 12 bore pump actions, the world is your oyster. There is anything and everything to suit ones budget and taste, from basic Savage to exotic Benellis.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Contact Wabbitbosher, he has loads of cheap pumps to get you going!

[Lloyd90]

I've seen Section 1 pump actions fornsale half the price of their Section 2 equivelants!

[arm3000gt]

If you want a pump get a Benelli supernova in section 2 flavour if you can stretch to that much. Out of the box compared to others it practically loads itself. It will keep it's value if you want to sell later or get it converted to S1 when ready.

If you are going cheap try get something with a 1/2 or tighter choke with 24 or 26" barrel. I've managed to get by fine with a Hatsan pump and shoot with full choke for everything. The Benelli is probably the best pump for PSG.

[Dellbert]

buy a sec 1 as Lloyd said it will be far cheaper

[mossberg-operator]

Sound advise on the Benelli above. Visit PSG ranges, talk to everyone before buying. Youtube also good source of information.

Edited September 7, 2017 by mossberg-operator

[Rimfireboy]

Supernova is a nice slick gun to shoot. I've got a 24" barrel on my pistol grip version. Not done any practical shooting with it though,just vermin. Bought on a whim,but no regrets at all.

[Breastman]

The most used pump guns for PSG are Benelli Supernova, Mossberg 500 (not 590) and Remington 870. The Mossberg has fallen out of favour now as because it doesn't have a solid/tongue style shell lifter its very difficult to dual/quad load which is (currently) the fastest way to load a tube magazine shotgun. Skip to 04:00 to avoid the drivel on this video about quadloading if you don't know what that is (dual loading is the same but you only hold 2 cartridges at a time);

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USdFTFG0iCI

 

I've never seen a Revo gun in the flesh but considering the price there must be a reason people aren't using them....

 

I had a brief fling with Standard Manual division (pump-action) and had a Supernova for it but in all honesty I didn't like it. I'm average height and build and the gun just felt too chunky for me. The massive loading gate is there to accommodate 3.5" cartridges, and while it does make it easier to load, because of the length of the cartridge it means you have a longer stroke on the gun to work the action and if I had a pound for every time I've seen a Supernova shortstroked i'd have someone typing this post out for me! If Mossberg could make a gun with a solid lifter a 500 (with a choked barrel) would definitely be my choice.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Breastman

[Dellbert]

ive used the Beretta 1301 and liked it but was told they have 'problems' anyone know what ?

[impala59]

Going section 2 will mean loads of loading practice, no bad thing to begin with, but if you like the sport then you will surely aspire to a section one, whether that be open, auto or pump. Earlier advice regarding visiting clubs, trying out (sect 2 only) is sound and the club members will surely make you feel welcome. Whatever you buy will do the job and if it's yours and you practice you will get the rewards. I would say observe more than listen as we all have our favourites and foibles, hope you get into it, 😊Enjoy 😊

Edited September 8, 2017 by impala59

[Lloyd90]

Going section 2 will mean loads of loading practice, no bad thing to begin with, but if you like the sport then you will surely aspire to a section one, whether that be open, auto or pump. Earlier advice regarding visiting clubs, trying out (sect 2 only) is sound and the club members will surely make you feel welcome. Whatever you buy will do the job and if it's yours and you practice you will get the rewards. I would say observe more than listen as we all have our favourites and foibles, hope you get into it, 😊Enjoy 😊

Now I THINK technically your not allowed to have a go of other people's s1 shotguns?

Something about it not being mentioned in the legislation?

 

Sorry if I've got it mixed up with something else.

[impala59]

Now I THINK technically your not allowed to have a go of other people's s1 shotguns?

Something about it not being mentioned in the legislation?

 

Sorry if I've got it mixed up with something else.

You are not allowed to use other people's S1 shotguns and clubs cannot have S1 club guns. Most clubs will have S2 try guns, auto and pump, and it has been my experience that members will be happy to share their S2's. It is a great sport, challenging, frustrating, fun and rewarding, with S2 you can get a good taste. (I have seen people take part with a double too, if you can load fast , why not?) it's a bit knockabout with barricades and such so I wouldn't take your beloved unmarked clay or game gun though😀

[Twistedsanity]

Shame you are all the way up there, I have a nice mossberg 500 with the tactical stock I was considering parting with

[quentyn]

You are not allowed to use other people's S1 shotguns and clubs cannot have S1 club guns. Most clubs will have S2 try guns, auto and pump, and it has been my experience that members will be happy to share their S2's. It is a great sport, challenging, frustrating, fun and rewarding, with S2 you can get a good taste. (I have seen people take part with a double too, if you can load fast , why not?) it's a bit knockabout with barricades and such so I wouldn't take your beloved unmarked clay or game gun though

 

i am not doubting you at all, but how does it work with 22RF rifles ? i have been to a fair where there was a range and I for £5 shot a magazine through an AR15 type thing in 22RF. One presumes that they are section 1 firearms ?

[Yellowvanman]

There is an exemption for miniature rifle ranges. It used to be and may still be that no that's right no certificate was needed.

[impala59]

Its all in the Home Office Guide to firearms Licencing Laws which can be downloaded on PDF (all 260 odd pages)

[Sco77w]

 

i am not doubting you at all, but how does it work with 22RF rifles ? i have been to a fair where there was a range and I for £5 shot a magazine through an AR15 type thing in 22RF. One presumes that they are section 1 firearms ?

The law surrounding section 1 shotguns, long barreled pistols and revolvers is a bit messed up. basically the top and bottom of it is you can only shoot whats on your FAC.

 

As for shooting PSG with a S2 shotgun, its how pretty much everyone starts out mainly because of the S1 shotgun laws. I have several S1 shotguns including a Supernova, which is a great gun for shooting standard manual, an 870 which is my target shotgun gun with a scope and a heavily modified Armsan A612 which surprises everyone that sees it.

 

my advice would be buy a cheap pump, anything, just pick something up for a hundred quid and save your money for when you get your fac sorted. I converted my Armsan from S2 to S1 and a friend has converted a Mossberg 500, both costing what it would to buy a second hand gun already set up for PSG. Now we have the likes of Stoeger introducing the M3K which is a race ready S1 gun thats basically a Turkish Benelli M2 for £500 its hardly worth the messing. This way you can leave the cheapo S2 on your SGC for your mates to use when they've seen how much fun your having shooting PSG

 

Where will you be shooting? I can put you in touch with a few lads that shoot at Sheffield and we all shoot at Rossendale and a few at Northcote Buts.

Edited September 16, 2017 by Sco77w