Commissar Corbyn

[ditchman]

1 hour ago, Penelope said:

And despite the jovial piccy, that is the scary thing.

he was in great yarmouth today..................couple of people stopped for a selfi...and that was that

[Vince Green]

2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

Exactly: he may not have had much to give, but he was willing to give it (and probably got paid for doing so) and knew exactly what he was doing.  He is not a fool, but a clever, manipulative and devious man.

My old boss, and a very experienced sales manager, used to say "flatter their ego". I am absolutely sure that is exactly what the Bush Administration did with Tony Blair over Iraq, and he lapped it up.

These spies were trained to pick out angry resentful people and turn that inner anger to their own ends. "We know that everybody treats you like a nobody but we think you are a very special person and we like you"

Its exactly the same technique used by weird religious cults to recruit vunerable members. First they hook them then they reel them in.

Edited February 22, 2018 by Vince Green

[Penelope]

34 minutes ago, ditchman said:

he was in great yarmouth today..................couple of people stopped for a selfi...and that was that

Should have taken him for a walk out to Scroby sands and left him there.

[panoma1]

28 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

 

These spies were trained to pick out angry resentful people and turn that inner anger to their own ends. "We know that everybody treats you like a nobody but we think you are a very special person and we like you"

Its exactly the same technique used by weird religious cults to recruit vunerable members. First they hook them then they reel them in.

Like the antis and the extremist protectionists!

[Vince Green]

6 minutes ago, panoma1 said:

Like the antis and the extremist protectionists!

Exactly! its a recurring theme. In a different context we are seeing it in the Grenfell tower tragedy. All these 'false befrienders' piling in, setting up "residents committees" and "action groups" demanding this and that. They don't really care a jot about the victims or their families. Its all a tactic to knock the establishment and make some money from appeals and crowd funding.

[Howling Hound]

11 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

Two things stand out for me;

First I agree with both of the above posts.  He may have had little to offer, but to offer anything (to in effect our 'enemies') was blatantly wrong.

Second - he has (allegedly) made 'threats' that when in power he will be 'coming for' the free press.  Now this is what totalitarian regimes (left and right) do.  Stop free speech.  Quote below is from the Daily Fail.

And then, addressing the 'Press barons' with their 'bad old habits', he incautiously unveils a sinister threat that sounds incongruous in the mouth of a supposedly democratic politician: 'Well, we've got news for them. Change is coming.'  This can only mean one thing — that the freedom newspapers enjoy to ask difficult questions about any matter of public interest, such as Corbyn's past (and, indeed, the record of any politician) would be curtailed if his hard-Left version of Labour comes to power.

At leased the BBC will not be affected then 

[Hamster]

Pity the invertebrates won't be able to bring themselves to admit to being wrong, again. 

[tandytommo]

1 hour ago, Hamster said:

Pity the invertebrates won't be able to bring themselves to admit to being wrong, again. 

Like Tory MP Ben Bradley ? Might have to get ready to put your hands in your pockets lads !!

 

[Hamster]

1 hour ago, tandytommo said:

Like Tory MP Ben Bradley ? Might have to get ready to put your hands in your pockets lads !!

 

The only reason he found the backbone to apologise is because he'd have had to make an even larger defamation payment than he agreed to pay towards charriddy. 

[pinfireman]

15 hours ago, Hamster said:

The only reason he found the backbone to apologise is because he'd have had to make an even larger defamation payment than he agreed to pay towards charriddy. 

Remember Hamster.....where there is smoke, there is nearly always fire! I would not trust Corbyn to do anything good FOR this country, but I would not be surprised if he tried to harm it!

[JohnfromUK]

52 minutes ago, pinfireman said:

Remember Hamster.....where there is smoke, there is nearly always fire! I would not trust Corbyn to do anything good FOR this country, but I would not be surprised if he tried to harm it!

+1

[old man]

3 hours ago, pinfireman said:

Remember Hamster.....where there is smoke, there is nearly always fire! I would not trust Corbyn to do anything good FOR this country, but I would not be surprised if he tried to harm it!

History tells that most politicos have a potential for that tendancy?

Easy fixes to home situations.....no?

Interfere other side of the world.....oh yeah, ok?

[Hamster]

6 hours ago, pinfireman said:

Remember Hamster.....where there is smoke, there is nearly always fire! I would not trust Corbyn to do anything good FOR this country, but I would not be surprised if he tried to harm it!

In this case the smoke was a deliberate and complete and utter LIE, the scumbag has fully admitted it and paid damages to charity so sorry but there is no case to answer and no embers or fire of any sort. Just because you happen to not like Corbyn doesn't mean he's out to harm this country. 

[JohnfromUK]

There is no doubt that Corbyn DID talk to the Czech intelligence services

There is no doubt that Corbyn DID sympathise with the IRA

There is no doubt that Corbyn would borrow masses of money, leading to massive economic problems that will roll down through generations

There is no doubt that Corbyn has complimented the dreadful regime in Venezuela

There is no doubt that Corbyn has shown great weakness in our defence (in indicating that he would not use out nuclear option (thus negating the deterrent)

There is little doubt that Corbyn would clamp down on fieldsports (which is what most on this forum enjoy)

In fact there are a whole lot of things that Corbyn has done, said, supported that (in my opinion) make him completely unfit to lead this country.  The fact that one (Tory) MP has had to apologise and 'wind his neck in' does not absolve Corbyn or change any of the facts.

 

[pinfireman]

Hamster, The MP who retracted his allegation WAS NOT the original source of the material being  levelled at Corbyn...................That was done by 2 National Newspapers, and it is  noticeable that Corbyn has  failed to issue writs against them.... instead he issued a dire warning to the Press, that if he wins the next election, "change is coming to them"....maybe he wants the type of  free press to be found in Venezuela, Russia, (where journalists opposed to Putin get murdered and their killers are NEVER found)..China, Cuba,  and in the good old days of the Cold War, all over Eastern Europe! On one thing you are right.............I do not like Corbyn, and I do not trust him! He has NEVER attended a service for any British soldier in the last 40 years, but has attended services for dead IRA men.....says it all. 

1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said:

There is no doubt that Corbyn DID talk to the Czech intelligence services

There is no doubt that Corbyn DID sympathise with the IRA

There is no doubt that Corbyn would borrow masses of money, leading to massive economic problems that will roll down through generations

There is no doubt that Corbyn has complimented the dreadful regime in Venezuela

There is no doubt that Corbyn has shown great weakness in our defence (in indicating that he would not use out nuclear option (thus negating the deterrent)

There is little doubt that Corbyn would clamp down on fieldsports (which is what most on this forum enjoy)

In fact there are a whole lot of things that Corbyn has done, said, supported that (in my opinion) make him completely unfit to lead this country.  The fact that one (Tory) MP has had to apologise and 'wind his neck in' does not absolve Corbyn or change any of the facts.

 

CORRECT!

[Hamster]

I love that people think we have a free press here. 

 

[yod dropper]

47 minutes ago, Hamster said:

I love that people think we have a free press here. 

 

Ah yes, only in the conspiracy theory world of the web.

[pinfireman]

1 hour ago, Hamster said:

I love that people think we have a free press here. 

 

Compared to the garbage, one party Press in countries that Corbyn admires, we do!

Venezuela has the worlds largest reserves of oil, even more than Saudi....yet its inflation is so rampant that it costs  2 MILLION bolivars, to get a  packet of  tablets for a kidney condition..Source:  BBC.  You need a wheelbarrow to carry the banknotes for a weeks groceries! This type of inflation was last seen in Germany in the 1920,s. And it,s a socialist regime that Corbyn OPENLY admires!  (Turns out that the Presidents family has banked huge amounts of cash into Switzerland............)

[Gordon R]

Corbyn should sue the former head of MI6 and the newspapers concerned. If he doesn't, I think he has something to hide, even though he has never met the IRA.

[JohnfromUK]

6 hours ago, Gordon R said:

even though he has never met the IRA.

There are a number of archive photos over several years of him meeting Jerry Adams and Martin McGuiness, dating to before their 'legitimisation' by the peace process.

[Vince Green]

9 hours ago, Gordon R said:

Corbyn should sue the former head of MI6 and the newspapers concerned. If he doesn't, I think he has something to hide, even though he has never met the IRA.

There is no way Corbyn would ever go in the witness box and have to answer questions under oath from a top barrister. That is never going to happen

[krugerandsmith]

13 hours ago, pinfireman said:

Compared to the garbage, one party Press in countries that Corbyn admires, we do!

Venezuela has the worlds largest reserves of oil, even more than Saudi....yet its inflation is so rampant that it costs  2 MILLION bolivars, to get a  packet of  tablets for a kidney condition..Source:  BBC.  You need a wheelbarrow to carry the banknotes for a weeks groceries! This type of inflation was last seen in Germany in the 1920,s. And it,s a socialist regime that Corbyn OPENLY admires!  (Turns out that the Presidents family has banked huge amounts of cash into Switzerland............)

As the old song says .... its the same the whole World over.

[JohnfromUK]

2 minutes ago, krugerandsmith said:

As the old song says .... its the same the whole World over.

I rather suspect the UK is one of the least restricted press ...... though of course many organisations have political leanings one way or the other (e.g. Mail, Telegraph right leaning, Mirror and Guardian left leaning) - these are not restricted, but editorial choices.  If you don't agree with the editorial slant, don't read that paper.  We should however expect nationally funded news coverage (thinking particularly BBC) to be central, or at least centrally balanced.  Currently I tend to think it leans leftwards, but no doubt those on the left think it leans rightwards!

It is also quite right that there are some restrictions on matters relating to national security (e.g. defence matters, national status VIP travel plans, terrorism investigations) because to publish some information would put lives at risk.

[Gordon R]

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There are a number of archive photos over several years of him meeting Jerry Adams and Martin McGuiness, dating to before their 'legitimisation' by the peace process.

John - I am aware of the many photos - it seems that Jeremy is not - even though he was there at the time. Perhaps his attention was elsewhere - possibly dreaming about Diane Abbott.

[pinfireman]

2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

I rather suspect the UK is one of the least restricted press ...... though of course many organisations have political leanings one way or the other (e.g. Mail, Telegraph right leaning, Mirror and Guardian left leaning) - these are not restricted, but editorial choices.  If you don't agree with the editorial slant, don't read that paper.  We should however expect nationally funded news coverage (thinking particularly BBC) to be central, or at least centrally balanced.  Currently I tend to think it leans leftwards, but no doubt those on the left think it leans rightwards!

It is also quite right that there are some restrictions on matters relating to national security (e.g. defence matters, national status VIP travel plans, terrorism investigations) because to publish some information would put lives at risk.

The Daily Mirror is the OFFICIAL Press mouthpiece for Labour, not "left-leaning"...as for the Guardian, ask yourself why almost everyone connected with the  Left-wing Guardian,s editorial staff, gets a cushy job with the BBC, in News or current affairs? The figures are out there if you look for them.  The BBC has not been impartial since Maggie Thatcher put an end to automatic licence fee rises in the mid-eighties.  I used to visit BBC HQ in London during the late 70,s and the number of hangers on, troughers, who had not produced a single programme for years was unbelievable! All on salaries, all stuffing themselves on the best food in London (BBC canteen for lower management up[wards, and all on good pensions!) All subsidised by the licence fee payers!  £2-50 bought me a 3 course lunch (fillet steak!) and a half carafe of a really nice wine!

The Daily Express, regarded as right-wing, has just been bought by Trinity Group, who own the Daily Mirror, so we now know which way that will go!

14 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

John - I am aware of the many photos - it seems that Jeremy is not - even though he was there at the time. Perhaps his attention was elsewhere - possibly dreaming about Diane Abbott.

That,s not a dream! It,s a nightmare!