oowee Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Howling Hound said: She wants me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) God, you must be desperate! Edited March 10, 2018 by pinfireman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Interestingly it appears a study has revealed eastern European migration hasn't been as beneficial to the UK as we have been led to beleive. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/eu-migrants-in-britain-claimed-more-than-4bn-of-handouts-in-a-year/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just shows how desperate the establishment and other remainers were (are!) to stay in the EU..........it seems they conspired against and lied to voters, rigging the vote by withholding information that could have contributed towards persuading voters to vote for Brexit! Are we really surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Interestingly it appears a study has revealed eastern European migration hasn't been as beneficial to the UK as we have been led to beleive. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/eu-migrants-in-britain-claimed-more-than-4bn-of-handouts-in-a-year/ No surprise there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Interestingly it appears a study has revealed eastern European migration hasn't been as beneficial to the UK as we have been led to beleive. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776790/eu-migrants-in-britain-claimed-more-than-4bn-of-handouts-in-a-year/ Complete tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, oowee said: Complete tosh. And your evidence of this is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: And your evidence of this is? Read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, oowee said: Read it. I already did, don't see any evidence of it being complete tosh, I'm not saying it is or isn't, but you did, I'd like to read the evidence your statement was based on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, oowee said: Read it. Predictable response, I have done and personally think it is as accurate as the "tosh" put out by your remoaner friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 DWP figures were not broken down by country. But if they followed a similar distribution, then almost all of the taxes went back in working-age benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Also factor in the amount of money spent on schooling, crime, the NHS ect and the net contribution could be a negative one, what annoys me is this information appears to have been suppressed before the brexit vote, the government stating the figures were unavailable which now appears was a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) government stating the figures were unavailable which now appears was a lie. In the run-up to the Brexit referendum, ministers had insisted the figures were not available. But the cost of open doors migration has now been revealed. But it is not clear what figures were not available and the assertion that the cost is revealed is not evidenced. The govt gets the data from DWP. The data requested for a breakdown by Country of origin of recipient of benefit, correlated to tax paid by country of origin does not exist. The article makes the statements which are not substantiated or evidenced. Edited March 11, 2018 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Well it seems pretty clear to me, by the way, I'm all for migration, as long as it's controlled, in the countrys and people's intersts and we're not lied to, which appears to be the case in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 The cost of migration to the UK will be documented the same as any benefit from it.i doubt any government would ever give these figures to the public as all are pro Europe. Boston has one of the highest population of migrants in the country if not the highest.most of those who work are in low paid jobs so will receive tax credits or whatever its called now.housing benefit.there must be something in the air here also as once the young girls arrive they all seem to get pregnant.this brings into play more benefits.the mp for the area was asked on local radio the figures for crime by migrants.his reply was there are no figures but also nothing to show any increase in crime since the increase from eu.he was unable to explain the dozen or so murders and attempted murders all committed by migrants against migrants in the previous two years.something we had not seen before.i spent years cleaning the cattle yard so don't need any extra b/s from the government on Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, bostonmick said: The cost of migration to the UK will be documented the same as any benefit from it.i doubt any government would ever give these figures to the public as all are pro Europe. Boston has one of the highest population of migrants in the country if not the highest.most of those who work are in low paid jobs so will receive tax credits or whatever its called now.housing benefit.there must be something in the air here also as once the young girls arrive they all seem to get pregnant.this brings into play more benefits.the mp for the area was asked on local radio the figures for crime by migrants.his reply was there are no figures but also nothing to show any increase in crime since the increase from eu.he was unable to explain the dozen or so murders and attempted murders all committed by migrants against migrants in the previous two years.something we had not seen before.i spent years cleaning the cattle yard so don't need any extra b/s from the government on Europe. Exactly, the arguments for mass imigration are based on political dogma just like the agruments for staying in the EU. Both arguments lack substance. The downside of imigration is all around us for everyone to see, but we have a political establishment in denial. The destruction of our culture and way of life to be replaced by a polygot population was planned, to enable us to be easily absorbed into the new european superstate planned by the globalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, TriBsa said: Exactly, the arguments for mass imigration are based on political dogma just like the agruments for staying in the EU. Both arguments lack substance. The downside of imigration is all around us for everyone to see, but we have a political establishment in denial. The destruction of our culture and way of life to be replaced by a polygot population was planned, to enable us to be easily absorbed into the new european superstate planned by the globalists. It's all in the document FCO 30/1048, which is on the link above. For those who haven't read it, have a look. It make interesting reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: It's all in the document FCO 30/1048, which is on the link above. For those who haven't read it, have a look. It make interesting reading. Yes I've read that document with disbelief, in my opinion it's treason! Absaloutly disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 There is another cost that never seems to get factored into the debate. In my working life I encounter lots of Eastern Europeans, male and female. Without exception they are young, bright, hard working with a very strong work ethic. However, also without exception, they are working very hard to save up money that they plan to take back to their home countries eventually. Whether within a few weeks, months or years. That means that most of the money they are earning never goes back into the UK economy in the way that it would if it was earned by a resident of this country irrespective of their nationality. Its all dead money going abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Vince Green said: There is another cost that never seems to get factored into the debate. In my working life I encounter lots of Eastern Europeans, male and female. Without exception they are young, bright, hard working with a very strong work ethic. However, also without exception, they are working very hard to save up money that they plan to take back to their home countries eventually. Whether within a few weeks, months or years. That means that most of the money they are earning never goes back into the UK economy in the way that it would if it was earned by a resident of this country irrespective of their nationality. Its all dead money going abroad. Correct, again not their fault for using our flawed system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: There is another cost that never seems to get factored into the debate. In my working life I encounter lots of Eastern Europeans, male and female. Without exception they are young, bright, hard working with a very strong work ethic. However, also without exception, they are working very hard to save up money that they plan to take back to their home countries eventually. Whether within a few weeks, months or years. That means that most of the money they are earning never goes back into the UK economy in the way that it would if it was earned by a resident of this country irrespective of their nationality. Its all dead money going abroad. And who are benefitting financially from the cheap Eastern European labour.....not UK plc! As above, the money is disappearing out of the country....but those remainers who employ them on low wages and make increased profits by paying low wages............that none of the indigenous population could afford to work for! The only people/organisations that want the UK to remain in the EU are the EU themselves and those with a vested interest (usually financial) in staying! Or the stupid! Edited March 12, 2018 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: There is another cost that never seems to get factored into the debate. In my working life I encounter lots of Eastern Europeans, male and female. Without exception they are young, bright, hard working with a very strong work ethic. However, also without exception, they are working very hard to save up money that they plan to take back to their home countries eventually. Whether within a few weeks, months or years. That means that most of the money they are earning never goes back into the UK economy in the way that it would if it was earned by a resident of this country irrespective of their nationality. Its all dead money going abroad. So the labour value contribution to the UK economy and the taxes paid count for nothing? Increasingly it's those workers with higher educational attainment that are likely to travel here. A proportion will of course stay and invest. I remember many of my friends doing the same with Germany back in the early 80's when work was so hard to come by in the UK. Living in lodgings earning as much as possible and then coming home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, oowee said: Increasingly it's those workers with higher educational attainment that are likely to travel here I take it you haven't been on any London building sites recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worzel-gummidge Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: I take it you haven't been on any London building sites recently? You need a translator on the sites I've been on in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: I take it you haven't been on any London building sites recently? Been in the offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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