Mice! Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Still worth looking at BOP centres, if your getting two or three head shot rabbits and they want them you might get out flying the birds, always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 No! No! Mice, you know full well we should not enjoy ourselves when dealing with these pests. About 20 woodpigeons feeding on some newly opened maize silage today and magpies and about 40 chaffinches which was great to see and a carrion crow and two mallard. The carrion crow and two magpies did not go home. Legal to shoot the pigeons ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Legal to shoot the pigeons ???? who knows, on a farm on silage i would say err yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Is it still a crop ? Any experts still about to give us an idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreySquireler Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Not an expert by any means but as far as I understand if they are around then shoot them; cause if the're on the silage heap next to the field in an hour they will be on the field so there is your excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I was thinking its a food stuff? So you could shoot to protect it? Could well be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 No no, you are only allowed to shoot pigeons if they are actually caught in the act of damaging a crop. All the time they are sat in a tree minding their own business or just flying around as they like to do they can not be shot at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 The maize is a crop which has been ensiled. A crop is a crop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreySquireler Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Well realistically who on earth is gona pull you up on it; if someone did then you could decide on one of 50 million reasons you were shooting them; eating a foodstock, causing a hygiene issue, eating a crop ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Serious answer. If the farmer is happy with it just leave them where they fall, ignore the muppets that don't know what pest control means. As for silage, there is a serious risk of the cows getting poisoned by animal carcases ending up in the silage. At the very least you should remove them from the field and put under a hedge, burying is obviously better still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyl1972 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, SurreySquireler said: Well realistically who on earth is gona pull you up on it; if someone did then you could decide on one of 50 million reasons you were shooting them; eating a foodstock, causing a hygiene issue, eating a crop ect These birds can cause big hygiene issues thought cant they especially when feeding through silage and then defecating on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, atyl1972 said: These birds can cause big hygiene issues thought cant they especially when feeding through silage and then defecating on it. In theory yes but they would be carping on the grass anyway wouldn't they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 28/03/2018 at 22:09, 39TDS said: No no, you are only allowed to shoot pigeons if they are actually caught in the act of damaging a crop. All the time they are sat in a tree minding their own business or just flying around as they like to do they can not be shot at. Its mad and hopefully never enforced. They could arrest just about every shooter in the country come Feburary roost shooting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 21:43, SurreySquireler said: With rabbits at this time of year I am very selective as not to leave kits underground to stave to death. I'm not sure how you ensure the above, but it's not pest control if you're selective about which rabbits you shoot. One woman whose ground I shoot on once admitted to covering over an unearthed litter of rabbit kittens she came across on her land! She asks me to shoot rabbits but does this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 I raw feed my dog and on FB there is a group for local raw feeders, one member regularly sells fresh head shot rabbits to other members. May be a worthwhile idea to see if there is a similar group covering your area Pity you aren't closer I would happily take some rabbits and squirrels off you, I don't manage to get out now and my freezer is empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 28/03/2018 at 21:32, PPP said: Just a note of advice, shooting pigeons for sport will put you in violation of the general licence, it’s worth a read if you aren’t familiar No it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 28/03/2018 at 22:09, 39TDS said: No no, you are only allowed to shoot pigeons if they are actually caught in the act of damaging a crop. All the time they are sat in a tree minding their own business or just flying around as they like to do they can not be shot at. Incorrect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Here we go AGAIN, round and round in bloody circles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, motty said: No it won't. Yes, it will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Must be well over a year since we last went through all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, PPP said: Yes, it will It won't. I shoot all my pigeons because I enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, motty said: It won't. I shoot all my pigeons because I enjoy it. I think you mean you enjoy your hobby of controlling Vermin under the terms of the general licence, enjoyment of shooting is merely a by product.... If you are shooting birds for nothing but sport then you are not complying with general licence and are in violation of wildlife’s acts. Shooting Vermin under terms of general licence is a valuable and valid contribution to wildlife management, it’s is good that you enjoy it as it encourages you to undertake this valuable work voluntarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 The General Licence, is another pointless and unenforceable piece of EU legislation. The Home Secretary has the licence! Have you ever had to apply for one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, PPP said: I think you mean you enjoy your hobby of controlling Vermin under the terms of the general licence, enjoyment of shooting is merely a by product.... If you are shooting birds for nothing but sport then you are not complying with general licence and are in violation of wildlife’s acts. Shooting Vermin under terms of general licence is a valuable and valid contribution to wildlife management, it’s is good that you enjoy it as it encourages you to undertake this valuable work voluntarily. But I don't shoot to control pests. I shoot for sport/pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, PPP said: I think you mean you enjoy your hobby of controlling Vermin under the terms of the general licence, enjoyment of shooting is merely a by product.... If you are shooting birds for nothing but sport then you are not complying with general licence and are in violation of wildlife’s acts. Shooting Vermin under terms of general licence is a valuable and valid contribution to wildlife management, it’s is good that you enjoy it as it encourages you to undertake this valuable work voluntarily. The General Licence has nothing to do with The Wildlife & Countryside Act. First is from Brussels the second is from the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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